With my relatives who still believe in that BS, they bring how the new light reveals hidden mysteries in bible and how WT is trully channel of God's communication. I am out for 20 years so the beliefs we had in the 1975-1990 are not the same as in 2014. So my question to them is when the old light was incorrect and indeed wrong, so who was the source of it? If God cannot lie than he could not be the source of the old light. This usually ends all conversation.
Posts by kaik
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5MINIMUS - If You Could Tell A Jehovah's Witness One Thing?
by The Searcher ingood question, but i can't add a reply to your op.. my statement would be this - "if your governing body is god's direct channel of communication on earth, why did god use babylon the great to reveal a 'new light' to let you all know that the 'evil slave' isn't real, it's "hypothetical"?.
after which, the wtbts plagiarised the idea and presented it as a "new understanding/clarification" in their watchtower magazine.. please read the net bible at matthew 24:48, then read the footnote.
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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)
by LostGeneration ini've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.
several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.
oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.
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kaik
I agree with the LG that the WT will not go away in our lifetime. What would cause WT to cave in would be a split where 1/2 of members would secede and create own church independent from GB. But this will not happen becasue everyone who left the cult knows that it is faith build on BS without any deeper spiritual and social values. When it comes to income stream, it is huge, tax free, and probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars per year. I talked to my relatives in Europe that told me that every congregation is now donating about $1500 per month into organization on top of the other expenses they need to run and maintain their KH. If there is 250 KH is Czech Republic, they generate over 4.5 millions of dollars per year. And that is not all the money from assemblies and memorials. Consider much wealthier KH is Western Europe and Northern America, the mothers fleece their members by millions of dollars. If CZ is the medium in income world-wide and its applied across all the KHs, borg receives about 2.4 billions per year. Think about it, it is a huge business.
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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kaik
Also hairtrigger, I would like to add, more JW of your family are in, the higher status you have. My now deceased aunt produced several sons who later became elders and they had created more children so their KH is a place where everyone f..ck someone and is related by blood and marriage. My aunt was treated like princess (I told her that into her arrogant face), she got away with everything she had ever done. She felt to be invincible, routinely disrupted funerals of relatives, etc. She lied, was dishonest, but was well off financially, etc. My cousins believed the "A" was just about to happen and borrowed tons of money from banks with idea that they will never repay it. The had issue with law enforcement, tax agencies, banks, government and got away with it. They are still elders. The newcomers are treated like doormat. However, if she or he is a potential new addition to their extended family, than they are treated nicely.
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Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?
by mrquik init's happened before.
how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.
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kaik
I think the mass exodus (it would be mostly the sane) would leave the most crazy and mentally disturbed in the organization. The GB would feel that the mass exodus is a proof that the end is near and they fullfill the prophecies about apostasy. WT is so deep in its delusion that there is absolutely nothing that would awake them. The GB can still live comfortably with smaller membership.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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kaik
Thank you Rebel8. I remember some of these texts. Wow, they happened so long time ago. As a school boy I remember being told that Armageddon is going to to happen in my childhood. Decades later, I am still here and no big "A" had happened. And my evil aunt who told me that is dead waiting for it.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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kaik
These event were supposed to happen in the 1st century when retarded old man expected dead guy to appear and defeat Roman Empire.
- Christianity never was a religion of majority of the human race.
- Nobody cares about cult like Jehovah Witness, their own stupidity and misguided theology makes everyone laugh. Jesus rules since 1914?! yeah, lol. WT selected as his bride in 1918 yet not single prophecies they made came truth. Generation that will never die. Closed heavenly calling.. yeah. 140 years of wrong prophecies and misunderstanding bible. No need to attack, they make disservice to themselves.
- If you see signs, it is a time to talk to mental health professional.
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Did the WT ever unofficially ban Kal-El?
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ina few years ago avatar was 'demonized' by the wt.
in reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (avatar means something else nowadays.... ).
but anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on tv.
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kaik
I remember bunch of movies that were forbidden. If anyone had seen Polish movie Sexmise they will know that it was a political manifest against totalitarian, communist regime in Poland during the Marshall law in the 1980's. JW were forbidden to watch it; dispise its name, it was a not sexually oriented movie.
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Anyone recall asemblies actually being fun?
by tim hooper inwhen i was a wee lad, there was a carnival atmosphere at assemblies as this old footage will show:.
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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/witnesses-baptised/query/jehovahs+witnesses.
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kaik
Yes and no. I was in Prague 1991 on Strahov stadium which had over 100,000 JWs. While it was nice to be there with family, some people I met were great and the emotions were strong, it was tiring. It was brutally hot in the pan, long line to restroom, difficult to leave, and constant monitoring what everyone was doing.
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Head coverings for women
by Comatose inmy mom used to throw a paper napkin on her head when forcing us to study after i was baptised.
i've seen scarves, and shawls, and a very few hats.. isn't using a napkin on your head just the same as not bothering?
what a dumb rule too.
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kaik
I never seen napkins in our KH, but scarfs were rule. But also it was in Eastern Europe where women in countryside still wear babuska, so it was not unusual. Some sisters has full drawer of various scars and also they tied them differently all the time. Some of the scarfs had knot under the chin (real babuska), other behind, some also tied a knot on top that they looked like witches. Also some elder sisters used something like a dyed red -pink diaper that they wrapped around the head.
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2014! Why are we still here? 100 years since Jesus came back according to JWs.
by tenene inhello, i have been offline for quite some time and i know this might have been discussed a great deal, but its burning me, hence i am raising this issue again.
this is also to help the newbies and lurkers.
i thought the 1914 generation would have long passed by at this point and time, and believe they have come up with a new spin to the whole generation issue.
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kaik
WT does not need tens of millions of followers; it will be happy with several millions. Because our world has always some problems and issues (political, social, economical, natural), it will create people who are interested in WT doctrines. They will find it enticing and will feel that WT has answer for all their personal problems. Additionally, some people are drown into extreme group, which will ensure WT surival. While religious indifference is the biggest threat to WT and almost to every religion in the world, they will be happy with small pack of loyal followers. Addtionally, all these misleaded prophecies and articles really did not shake the organization in the past 135 years. Many JWs who are critical to the organization think that it is possible to reform. I personally do not believe JW disappear into history during my lifetime.