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Marriage In The New World

by Cold Steel in

okay, here's the issue.

some people, even some jws, believe that in the new world they will be reunited with their spouses.

jesus, however, said that in the resurrection there would be no marriage or giving in marriage.

It utterly amazes me how so many people, and especially those that currently are or were witnesses describe Jesus like they actually knew him and all his thoughts and motives and the meanings of all of his words. In particular Bobcats comments and style of writing reads almost identical the Watchtower style of writing. The very same self assurance and confident expertise but on the flip side. It's the very same watchtower speak.

I guess some people have just been in there way too long. You can take the man out of the Borg but you can't take the Borg out of the man.

And who here really cares about what the watchtower teaches any more anyway? Is that not why everyone has left? Or was it to quote them and use their old stale reasoning and arguments eternally in almost every thread?

How about some fresh and original ideas? Or does the watchtower run so deep in many peoples blood that they just can no longer even think and communicate outside that condescending organisational framework?

Just a thought.

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Sunday's Talk

by biometrics in

so my wife has started going to sunday meetings again.

when she returns home i ask her what she learned.. yesterday's talk was about "putting up with brothers and sisters who suffer depression" (in my wife's words).

this confirms my suspicions that there's a high percentage of jws who suffer from depression disorders.

Dis-Member

I have suffered serious depression only 3 times in my life.

1. When my mother died.

2. When I first started going to meetings at 18 years of age.

3. When I went back to meetings after several decades away.

I no longer have anything to do with the cult. And guess what? No more depression.

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Bro at table set up wouldn't answer question (but still counted his time)

by ShirleyW in

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i asked when they would start offering gray bible and she said two weeks, then the only bro at the table saw my headphones in my hand started in by saying " i see you're plugged in, do you have a smartphone?

to which i said no, because i just had a feeling that must've been a new angle to tell folks about the new bible app.the sis said they would start offering it in two weeks the bro goes on to mention that you can download the app and you get the bible in five different languages and mentions some other stuff you can do onthe app, i said all this technology reminds when the society admonished you all to stay away from the interenet about 25 years ago .

you should've seen his face, he was smiling but was thinking "how does show know" behind that smile.

Dis-Member

Your arguing over a year emeth. The internet became publicly available 6 August 1991.

That's 24 years ago..

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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

by DATA-DOG in

just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

any active jw may answer this question.

Dis-Member

As I suspected... so many words, yet saying absolutely nothing. I was hoping for something more, in some way or another many here are still seeking truth.

It's just starkly apparent that there is more honesty, openess and truth among those that have left then among those that remain in. Yet another one comes up empty handed.

Nothing to see here..

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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

by DATA-DOG in

just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

any active jw may answer this question.

Dis-Member

I got the same response when I asked the elders heartfelt, sincere and very difficult questions. I told them that my very faith and future spiritual life lay in the balance. I needed answers like my life depended on it. Which it did.

What did they do? Zilch. Completely nothing. No answers came at all. Not one. countless questions were simply ignored or deflected. They left me to die a slow and painful spiritual death. The very reason I am here is because these men, these mere men, plain and simple with nothing but the most rudimentary high school education between them had no answers to give at all. They cowardly slid off into the shadows and just acted like I did not exist.

I felt the most complete and deepest betrayal from these so called shepherds of God. So very deeply disappointed.

I take some of the responsibilty for having placed even a modicum of faith in mere men. Men who are and were as deluded as I was at one time.

5

Funeral done

by LouBelle in

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friends

we had the funeral on friday.

my gran deserved so much more.

maxi - my grandfather, sullied the whole process.

Dis-Member

I don't know you but sorry for your sadness and loss LouBelle..

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This is becoming quite a collectors item!!

by Dis-Member in

check out the price!.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0914675001/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_0?ie=utf8&condition=new&sr=&qid=.

Dis-Member

Check out the price!

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Watchtower Eliminated the "Evil Slave Class" according to E-Watchman? True or False?

by AuntConnie in

looking for information to make the july 15th, 2013 watchtower make sense, i came across the e-watchman website.

is he a jehovah's witnesses waiting for the reformation or a apostate like all of us on jwn?.

his post on the "faithful and evil slave" is very enlightening, according to his question he received from his readers, the watchtower said "there is no evil slave class" to eliminate fear the evil slave is working at bethel!.

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I have had a fair bit of personal comminication with that E-Watcman fellow and find what he says about the governing body facinating. He describes them as they really are.. 'the disgusting thing in the Holy Place'.

It pretty heavy reading but hey are not pearls worth diving deep for?

And yes what the watchtower teach on so many very important issues is simply plain madness. You will do yourself an injury if you try to make any real sense of it.

Madness is not meant to be understood.

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WHY did we used to read this verse and think that it referred to Satan? How can anyone??

by The Quiet One in

in any translation you like.... .

http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-1.htm.

Dis-Member

Of course Quiet One, I was just playing serpents advocate.

Again and again I'm seeing that the org is showing itself not to be the possessors or messengers of truth but rather the master manipulators of truth.

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Jehovah's Witnesses worship the GOLDEN CALF

by Terry in

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moses led enslaved jews out of bondage in egypt to promised reward.. moses went up on the mountain (sinai) and the people waited, ran out of faith and made an idol (golden calf) to worship.. those people thought they needed a centralized worship focused on the visible.

they constructed their own.. the last centralized focus of worship, the temple in jerusalem, brought jews from everywhere to focus on one location.. when that was destroyed, they scattered and ran for the hills.. the true believers who replaced the jews (spiritual jews) banded together and concocted the church universal (catholic).

to centralize a theocratic government.

Dis-Member

Great thinking Terry.. thank you for sharing your thoughts as they awaken my own.