ok i have no idea who ray franz is and i have seen many threads that talk baout him but my only access to a comp.
is here at work and i can't really search for info too much--can someone help explain who he is and what he has done?
sorry i'm a newbie here :)
I have yet to recieve my copy of CoC, (Amazon have taken 3 weeks to deliver my copy, and it's still not arrived),
Cancel your order, and get it directly from Commentary Press instead. It will come much faster (plus Ray will get a few more bucks, since Amazon charges 40-50% commission).
we all are identified by our names here on jwd.
some use their real names, and others pick a moniker that is their nickname or perhaps a few words from a song they like.. why did you pick your name?.
for instance,.
badass shellfish
Try saying that out loud three times...
i've been really interested in this myself for a while as the online apostacommunity has grown large over the last couple of years.. as most of you probably realize, the internet has been instrumental for apostates to hook up and make a virtual fist at the watchtower, the turbulent history the online apostacommunity might interest you alot.
it interests me.. as i'm not someone that was here from the beginning, i'd really like to hear the stories of the oldtimers, the first apostates to hook up through the net, the stories from the first boards and sites that were apostate and the evolution of the apostacommunity after that.
i'm asking people that have been involved since at least 2002 or before to share their stories and views and things that stirred their emotions.
I wasn't involved in the community before '03 myself, but I can give you a few pointers that might (hopefully) be helpful:
- On Usenet, aside from the groups mentioned above, there were also a good number of ex-Witnesses in alt.religion.jehovahs-witness
- The WT was giving warnings about BBSes (not necessarily net-connected) back in the early 90's. I've heard some references to Prodigy boards; I don't know about other ones.
- ChannelC, run by Ros/Atlas (Rosalie Hughes), has been around for a while and gets posts from luminaries such as Jim Penton, Carl Jonsson, and Rud Persson. Ros is a board member of BRCI (along with--among others--Peter Gregerson, whom you may remember from Crisis of Conscience). She also owns the Beacon site, and manages a couple of listservs.
An interesting footnote to history would be witnesses.net. It was run by an undercover ex-dub, Obie Fernandez, as a 'honeypot'; basically, a genuine dub site, but one where Obie gradually let in other undercover ex-dubs to subtly encourage free thinking. I respect Obed for what he tried to do, although I still don't agree with his methods. Still, the site was in many ways a success; it was far larger than any other dub site since then.
http://editorials.arrivenet.com/rel/article.php/4929.html .
for decades, the watchtower bible & tract society (wts) has been teaching .
change in teachings among jehovah witnesses .
we all are identified by our names here on jwd.
some use their real names, and others pick a moniker that is their nickname or perhaps a few words from a song they like.. why did you pick your name?.
for instance,.
Aude_Sapere wrote:
Does anyone know the phonetic pronunciation of my nick? I kinda like to know
I'm no latin scholar, but from my limited knowledge I'm going to say it would be something like AW-day saw-PEAR-eh.
the_classicist (among others) could probably give a more accurate answer.
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let it be in groups, or just at home with your family, are you a leader or follower?.
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I'm more of a take-charge, plan-ahead type of person than my wife, who's a lot more laid back. So at home, I guess I'm usually the leader.
But generally speaking--in groups, at work, etc--I dislike responsibility, and prefer to stand back and let someone else take charge. I will step up if I feel that things aren't being taken care of, however.
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apparently, nasa is going to blow a stadium sized hole in a comet on the 4th of july.
the spacecraft doing this will be named "deep impact"; apparently the fact that it has the same name as a dooms-day movie is only a "coincidence".
I'm thinking this is just an excuse the geeks at JPL came up with so their families wouldn't give them a hard time about going in to work on July 4th...
Hey, you forgot to include catchthis' posts in the count!
Anyway, we're apostates. I thought we were all damned.
so i do not give a shit if a mod locks this thread i am drunk - on my 4th margarrittta and i mix 1 part tequilla to 1 part mixer so they are strong and one can really taste the tequilla - and i am drunk and do not give a shit - oh and by the way i am not going on field service in the morning
So, how are you feeling this morning, Stilla?
we all are identified by our names here on jwd.
some use their real names, and others pick a moniker that is their nickname or perhaps a few words from a song they like.. why did you pick your name?.
for instance,.
My name is Daniel Glick. (Daniel = God is Judge in Hebrew; Glick = Glück = Bell or Luck in German.)
On the witness boards, I used to go by the username dang (for Dan G). When I created my JWD username, I wanted something that would be an oblique reference to my JW username. Since 'dang' is a euphemism (word used in place of an expletive or unfavorable description) for 'damn', that's what I settled on.
