Posts by Legacy

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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

Legacy

HI,

At the end of the day. We shouldn't judge anyone or else we get judged, do I have that right ? Whether is should be in the bible or not, I think it should. The scriptures are very sobering, to anyone. As one person said here, they take out what can't use & add what they THINK THEY CAN PROVE. I'm a witness now....I think, aka use my brain, so that makes me a little different. I don't tell them what I think about some of their misleadings, because they have plenty in their own library to support what preach. So to me it's fruitless. I'm glad I saw it & glad I know about it. I'm not looking to get DF'd but if so, then I will keep this in my mind...& let's take a look at DF'ing...the org. cannot keep anyone from God, oh sure, you will be shunned if you go to the hall but not from God. We must all remember, that we will all have to carry our own loads & the GB's are no exception.

Legacy

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Alzheimer's hallucinations are demons?

by Once Blind in

my father has been suffering from alzheimer's for a couple of years now.

my mother keeps referring to his hallucinations as demons.

i haven't been to the hall in a while, i've been fading for 20 years now, but i find this amazing!

Legacy

Hi,

A friend of mine was raised a JW. Not sure if she was ever baptized. Anyway, her Mom ended up with Alzheimer's, she eventually had to go into a nursing home. My friend educated herself about it & was able to deal with her Mom. If we are sick because of sin, most of us would be lame & halt. Many years ago, folks were put in jail for being an alcoholic, not they treat it as a disease...You know when you can tell folks have demons in them, when they are down right mean & say mean things to folks, shun their family (just because they don't worship the way they do..sound familiar).....

My Mom has demintia...she remembers then forgets...it's like she has all the files in her head but they are scattered all over the place. One thing my mom remembers..is where the candy is, she doesn't remember to take her pills or that she can no longer drive, etc. I try not to argue with her when she forgets, it's a waste of precious time, neither one of us know how much longer we have, no sense in always correcting her...

Listen to your heart...Be There for her, get educated about this disease. Many of the witnesses are sick because they are uptight, trying to live like Jesus & there is only one Jesus & he was perfect. We can only strive to be a better person than the day before. I think most of them were chronic complainer before they got there. For some it may be a cry for help. Not talking about your Mom, this is serious, but they have hip, leg problems, how so, since they are out & about all the time, they should be healthier than most, out in the fresh air walking. I'm just saying. The hall or any place of worship may bring you peace, Rely on God & your God given sense.

Legacy

53

Who wants to live forever?

by Doug Mason in

what will living be like after 5 billion years?.

doug.

Legacy

Hi,

Hmmm, to live forever, hmmmm, let me think...from the hours of 7am to 9am- rush hour, then from 4pm to 7pm, rush hour...if we have these many people bumper to bumper at these times, what will it be like if trillions are resurrected & all live forever...oops, forgot, maybe we won't have to work. We'll be like God intented us to be...NAKED & HAPPY...

All kidding aside, living forever, depends on one's health. According to the Society, we will have plenty to do, like clean up after many will die, so for the first few years according to the JW's we'll be burying dead bodies...will Jehovah supply masks & gloves...

It's boggles the mind to think that one can live 4 Ever.

Legacy

26

Service Meeting Part about Sisters Wearing Head Coverings

by TTATTelder in

this week's service meeting had another part about women wearing head coverings.there's already been a post about it, but i would like some thoughts from the forum on the scripture referenced.

11: 3-10. i want to focus on verses 4-6. it says this (nnwt):.

"4)every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head shames his head; 5) but every woman who prays or prophesies+ with her head uncovered shames her head, for it is one and the same as if she were a woman with a shaved head.

Legacy

Hi,

I posted this earlier re: same topic....1 Cor. 11:13-16....

13 Judge for yourselves: Is it fitting for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that long hair is a dishonor to a man, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her instead of a covering. 16 However, if anyone wants to argue in favor of some other custom, we have no other, nor do the congregations of God.

Basically, Paul is saying..it's up to you....or up to the GB's....LOL...

Remember, Paul was about rules, he was very rigid before God called him & he still was about rules & regulations...If God/Jesus, didn't blind him, he would have still been running killing Christians. He was an extremist, as so many religious folks are, they either running around doing all sorts of things then when they get saved or face a death situation, Ah, they are be best christians you'll know...

The jewish women always have their heads coverd, with wigs...ummmm

I'm sitting here cracking up, imagine you are at a door & have to cover your head, then you whip out a wig...& say, I didn't want to stumble anybody & think if I put on scarf, that I'm a wash women....teeheeheee

Legacy

26

John 7:53-8:11 - taken out of the new bible

by cognac in

jw
friends

what is the proof it should be there?.

i've brought up to jws that revelation says not to take anything out or you will get the second death.. but they are ok with it because they compare it to not using the book of thomas, mary, etc.. what would you say to that?.

Legacy

Hi,

Why wouldn't they, that could be an exit scripture to share with them when one get's DF'd. Just like they can go to the scriptures to DF you, you can leave them with that one...copy & paste it from the old NWT..make copies & leave it with them...Trust me, it will leave a lasting impression. One late night, in one of their quiet moments, they'll remember the scripture that was left with them...trust me, it will bother their conscience, even though they would never let on...A great exiting scripture....Doesn't God think of every thing ? At least it was in the bible in the first place...he wanted it to be seen & it was. It's too late to do damage control. That scripture shows about being judgemental...that's the theme...nobody could step to Jesus...not nobody not no how....The message is...who are we to judge anybody, doesn't the bible say, do not judge or else you'll be judged as well, guess that got lost in translation..Only JW's were appointed to judge...isn't that right ? NOT..

Legacy

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Are Most of the Witnesses That You Know Of Die Hard JWs?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think the remaining ones left are kool-aid drinkers and virtually brain dead..

Legacy

Hi,

Yes, as far as they are concerned it is the ultimate truth. Even though they may question some things, I've heard them say....."I don't understand this or that, but I ain't going no where".... One woman said she came to the truth, not so much for the doctrine but for the comfort & peace.....Some of them have some upside down lives, so the hall is where they get their comfort & love....

I even know someone who was DF'd (now re-instated), she says, where else can we go, but one thing for sure, she is not brain dead...she says, the Society is going to have to answer to God, they will all get their day in court...She has helped me to look past the imperfection & says, just serve God, don't worry about man.

Legacy

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What is this "don't take it personally comment all about ? "

by caliber in

jw
friends

do you think when someone takes things personally in a way they are "selfcentered" because "its all about them" .... or does it mean maybe that the person is just very caring and sensitive?.

"(a phrase people use as a disclaimer to make an excuse to say or do something rude or mean to you to prevent you from having a poor self-image or so there won't be repercussions").

when a person says not to take it personally, don't they mean it may be upset them ... just like they are requesting you not to be upset ?.

Legacy

Hi,

If one says "Don't take it Personal", I would reply..."So, what person should I take it to"....or " Where should I take it"...

An elderly lady said that to her employer once....I love it...

Legacy

105

New Article on BEARDS and Attire of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwfacts in

i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.

it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.

i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.

Legacy

HI,

Has anyone seen the new WT for Dec. 2013 (public). Christ is on the throne with a beard...& it's white...now I know that they wore beards back then, maybe to keep them warm, who knows..just like the JW's have rules not to have them, so they may have had rules to have them...but that's not the big issue here...Why is Jesus Christ upon his 2nd coming or 3rd or whenever the WT says he is returning...why is he old with gray hair. Isn't he timeless. I'm just saying...even my study conductor said that a while ago, when they had Christ pix with a gray beard, she said, Jesus get's old...ummm, I saw a little light come out of her eyes...again, I'm just saying.

Any ideas ?

Legacy

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RESPONSE: Letting Go of the Need to Have Approval - MUST READ!

by gmason972 in

jw
friends

thanks for the responses everybody!...nice to know i'm not alone in this.

the one thing that the watchtower society has taught me is to never place your value and worth in the hands of other people!....

once you look deep down inside yourself and let go of the need to have approval from others...you will find out things about you; you didn't know before.

Legacy

HI,

Great advice. I'm there & I don't need any validation from men. It's nice to be encouraged but to need a constant pat on the back, not I. That can just be another one of the common denominators why some folks are drawn to the JW's. Maybe they are need by nature. They tell you when they are out in service, how long they were out there, how many studies & return visits...look at the fact we have to report time. That's right up the alley of a needy person..See me, look at me.... Oh yeah, they don't get them in, in time but that's because they feel they don't have enough time in the field or not many magazines distributed. But if this is Nov. & you didn't hand in your FS report for Oct., what is the point, November is gone. The Elders are just plain folks, some of them have let their position go to their heads & some of them are just like us...I decided, shortly after I got baptized & found out the truth about the truth, I was ok. I'm not impressed with MAN, at all. I have said all over this forum, that if this is God's org. well that is just nice, but if not...who cares.

When I hand in my report, I hand it in whether I have 1 hr. a month or more. I did what I could, oh sure, maybe I could have done more, but I didn't. If an elder wants to come talk to me about it, so be it. I have a full time job, & other responsiblities...just like everyone else.

I have found that many folks who are not witnesses have a need to be approved....it's some type of character (I won't say flaw), it's just how some folks are...like children, they can do something & look up at you with them big innocent eyes, all you can do is say, That is so great what you did...some folks are still stuck in "Kid Mode"...

Again, it's nice to be complimented & encouraged, but I think if I don't....I'LL LIVE....but that's just me. I have taken along time in my life to feel comfy in my own skin.. it's a journey, that we all have to take, I'm over 50....if I'm not comfy in my skin now, then when ?

Legacy

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Maintaining Faith In God As An Ex-JW

by pronomono in

as i fade further from the jws, i'm finding it increasingly hard to maintain faith in god.

i've been exploring many alternatives from atheism, agnostic, apathetic, pagan, and satanism (not devil worship, but the promotion of self-indulgence) to name a few.

i'm thoroughly intrigued to learn how those of you who remained christian managed to maintain your faith in god and christ, especially after enduring all the lies that we've been told about them.

Legacy

Hi,

I at times feel well, if I leave the witnesses, where & what shall I do. I'm use to reading & preparing. I love what I read in the bible, I like the literature from the society, but don't believe all of it. Again, it's man's interpretation. What the bible is really saying is....."BE GOOD & BE READY" by breaking down the
scriptures, as time goes along, it’s not the same. This is with all forms of worship, it reminds me of that movie.."Lost in translation". Man doesn't really know what God wants. Some sacrificed their kids, some ate blood, & a mess of other crazy stuff. All he wants is for us to be good & good to one another & help one another instead of dominating one another, the problem with religion is everybody wants to be right.

I think what makes folks turn away from the society & God, is because many wanted so much to believe in something, Folks gave the Society too much faith in Man...& man will dissappoint you every time...running around patting themselves on the back saying...I know without a doubt this is God's Org. even losing friends & family because if this haughty attitude. Now as time goes by you say, Hey maybe this isn't his org. Now you are angry not at the ones who mislead them/you/me, but at God & at oneself. God didn't mislead you, Man did. Don't be angry with God because of some prideful men. What does it matter that it is or isn't God's org. What we do have is God's word, written by imperfect man, but ask yourself, what is the theme of the Bible ? What is God trying to say to ME. I know of someone that is no longer a witness & they are ok, not sure if they believe in God but they are ok, yet, they ask themselves how could they have been mislead for so long. Because we want something to hold on to. But as long as we are here on this earth, sorry to say, as long as man has his hand in it...there will be problems. Didn't God say, Man can't even direct his own steps...we read that all the time yet, still say...This is God's org. My take on it is ....Maybe it is & maybe it isn't ...but what difference does it make, I will have to answer to God myself, no rep. from the Society is going to be my mediator. So what, it's not his org. I'm still good. I'm not there because I think it's his org. I went to learn the bible because I got tired of folks telling me what they thought. So the truth lead me to the truth. All places of worship lie, & all of them have a bit of the truth. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they all came together & came up with what the bible really says, they could learn from one another, but man is too proud for that. So all that to say, don't be mad with God. Put the blame where it belongs....ON MAN...Now a days, many places of worship is not so much about doctrine as it is about them motivating you, & talking to you about what it is to be a christian & how hard it is. How sometimes it's the choices we make that we blame God for. What really is in the inner person. The NT is a wonderful book, all about God's love letter, Jesus. He preached about love...

So hang on to that Love of God from God to us...

Again, don't be angry with God....he didn't do nothing to you to mislead you, but you know who did, don't you.

Legacy