Posts by pronomono

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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"

by cognac in

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literally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".

he also wrote, "it's in her hands.

it's her move now.

pronomono

As an update, last night something really went off in his head. This is more then JWs, there's something really wrong with him. I called a mental health place this morning and we are going to the emergency room to get him evaluated.

Considering your last post, I hope things are going as well as can be for you and your kids. It sounds like you are dealing with an incredibly difficult, mentally-abusive situtation compounded by your husband's own mental instabilities. Dealing with someone in this state can be tough because you never know what they are capable of or what they are even thinking. Please be on guard for the safety of you and your kids.

Keep us updated, and we'll try to offer as much words of encouragement and support as we can. Helping each other through our difficult times encourages all of us because we see that we can get the commraderie, love, and support that we need outside of the Watchtower even though we were told we couldn't.

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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."

by donny in

"it's the intent that counts not the result.".

i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.

the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.

pronomono

Thanks, Donny. I've been to that page plenty of times over the past year but with information overload, I'd forgotten about it. I need to go back through JWFacts again now that I've had time to digest the information some.

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Assembly Streaming videos

by sp74bb in

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video of convention online for download .

the english international convention program presented in east rutherford from june.

20 to 22, 2014, will be available for viewing beginning friday, june 27, 2014. the spanish international.

pronomono

And we can submit our attendance after logging in. Sweet!

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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."

by donny in

"it's the intent that counts not the result.".

i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.

the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.

pronomono

Donny,

You don't happen to have the reference for...

"He even went as far as to say 1925 had more scriptural support than 1914 and that the Christian of today (1920's) had more assurance that 1925 was true than Noah has belief in the coming deluge."

I'd like to have this for my own little library. I can find the print copy if only I know what artictle, page, etc to look for.

Thanks.

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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here

by minimus in

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everyone has an opinion on things.

oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.

but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.

pronomono

True, true.

The beauty of this board are the personal views, though. We certainly have plenty from one end of the spectrum to the other.

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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"

by cognac in

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literally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".

he also wrote, "it's in her hands.

it's her move now.

pronomono

Cognitive dissonance can really take a toll on a person, especially if he's fighting it tooth and nail. I know for a time I was borderline mental because I was struggling trying to be a good JW and at the same time learning TTATT without hesitation. It took it's worse toll when I still thought I needed to go out in service and reach out for privileges. We both know those two personalities don't mix, and it takes a harder toll on some people. You never know. This could be a mental breakdown from knowing that what you have been telling him is the truth, yet him resisting and trying to maintain status quo in the JW world could have caused him to break down. I hope it is something as simple as cognitive dissonance finally taking it's toll, and not something more serious.

We'll keep you and you're family in our thoughts. I hope this turns out well for both you and him.

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My Experience In Getting A Loved One Out

by notsurewheretogo in

this is my own experience so i'll share it in that it might help others.

this may not work for others but it seems to be working for me.. .

a little background...i'm happily married and 3 years ago i was an elder and my wife was a pioneer, we have 3 kids.

pronomono

Good logic, notsurewheretogo. This sounds like my wife to a tee in her way of thinking. Maybe I can drop similar reasoning on her soon.

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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."

by donny in

"it's the intent that counts not the result.".

i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.

the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.

pronomono

1925 had more scriptural support than 1914? Hmm, that sounds familiar...... Sort of like how there's more support for 1914 than electricity, wind, and gravity.

Good job on the conversation.

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Those that married a Ministerial Servant, Would you do it again?

by Quarterback in

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so, did you make a good choice?

was waiting for a ms really worth it?.

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pronomono

Speaking as an ex-ms....... Absolutely not. Don't do it. We are a blind people. I truly enjoyed serving the brothers and sisters and do miss it, but it sets expectations for yourself that you can never meet, and all the activity blinds you to what's really going on.

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My family has known I'm an apostate

by cognac in

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i found out that my husband has not only gone to the elders, but has been going to members of my family about me over a period of a few years.

this piece of news is just so depressing.

i've been wondering how my family knew i didn't go and thats why so many of them have becoming more and more distant.

pronomono

Cognac (my favorite drink, of course),

I've been going over some of your past posts and really feel for you and your situation. ((*hugs*)) I needed that too. What you've been through and are going through reminds me of many of the thoughts, feelings, and experiences I've been through with my wife. We're coming up on 6 years of marriage. I've been awake for a year and a half. Seeing some of your posts for the past 6 years scares the crap out of me because I see that becoming my future unless I take more decisive action now. I'm 29 and don't want to live my life regretting not acting sooner. Unfortunately, I don't like the consequences of taking action either. For people in our situation, there really is no "win-win", more of a "win-lose". We've had it engrained in our minds that people like us are the ones that create the divisions in households the Bible speaks of, but in reality its the man-made organization, religious leaders who insist on their spiritual superiority.

I want to say thank you for sharing your experiences because seeing your thoughts and struggles really does help, especially when I'm examining my own situation. I just don't always know how to put it into words.