The letter has been read at our hall, but we haven't made a resolution because....... our elders are busy calling each family to ask what will be donated. My wife made the comment how this was unusual and I gave a good witness to her about how she was right. I'm avoiding the subject with our elders right now. I'm always conveniently busy because I want nothing to do with this. We have a fairly big hall, so I'm interested to see what our number will be. Currently, we had been donating $50 to $100 dollars a month to the KH Fund. I'm sure this number is going to go way up. I'll let you all know what type of recourse there is, if any, for failing to provide a number.
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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Society money grab tonight
by Red Piller inwow.
you read about it here.
but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.
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No, the "obey even if it doesn't make sense" is: All your bank accounts R belong to us
Good Zero Wing reference.
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Society money grab tonight
by Red Piller inwow.
you read about it here.
but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.
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pronomono
I wonder if this whole exercise is even truly about the monthly amount. Maybe the "jig is up" and its a one-time grab of cash before they they shut the whole WT entity down. tryin to stay optimistic...
No one seemed to object or really pay attention (how can one know, regardless).
Like I said, though, the elder did seem uncomfortable- but maybe if I imaged that
It would be so easy for them to take the money and run if this is a last ditch effort. Can you imagine a letter to the BOE that reads somewhat like the following:
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Dear Brothers,
Due to an increase of persecution from local and federal governments, the Watchtower organization is forced to discontinue its operations at headquarters. As such, we will effectively be dissolved as a legal entity on such and such date. However, this does not mark an end to the preaching work. Instead, this should spur us on to even more activity as the end draws ever nearer. In agreement with the Scriptures in regard to early Christian congregations, Jehovah's Witnesses will now receive direction on the preaching work from their local body of elders. Each congregation should work closely with other congregations to ensure that the preaching work continues in an orderly manner to completeness.
May Jehovah continue to richly bless your hard work and loyal service as you generously support Kingdom interests.
Your brothers,
Christian Congregation of Jehovahs Witnesses
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Then the organization dissolves, exits stage left, and takes their money while the congregations blindly continue on believing that the end is even nearer while they are none the wiser.
This may be farfetched, but stranger things have happened.
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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth
by OneEyedJoe infirst off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.
if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.
to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.
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pronomono
Joe, wow. Just, wow. The whole time I was reading this, I had to keep telling myself that I wasn't proofreading my own post. Your situation is exactly like mine to the tee, except I started the process about a year ago. I'm still in. I'm still learning. I've stopped going in service, but I do attend meetings regularly. I just bought Steve Hassan's latest book a week ago and it is immensely helpful. Keep us updated on your situation. I'm sure I'll find a lot of parallels between the two of us.
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Electronic KMs Now Being Provided By Org to R&F?
by pronomono ini received a call from my book study conductor the other day asking for my email address so that he could start sending electronic copies of the km to me.
has anyone else received calls like this?
i've missed quite a few meeting (it's been nice) so am unaware if any letter has been read.
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Yeah, I knew that the society was providing these to elders. I had to help one of our technically impaired elders get some things from the website when I was over at his house about a year ago. I was still a MS at the time, and happened to see it then, but didn't ask about it. I was more curious as to why my bookstudy overseer (I guess group overseer now) all of the sudden decided to ask me if I wanted it.
I have to say I'm pretty obvious about having it. I never bring a paper copy to the meetings. I openly look at it during meetings. They have to know that it's not officially provided to R&F except through elders and servants with access to the secure side of jw.org . I would have thought that someone would put the pieces together by now and start questioning how I have all the KMs for the meeting when I shouldn't have them.
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Electronic KMs Now Being Provided By Org to R&F?
by pronomono ini received a call from my book study conductor the other day asking for my email address so that he could start sending electronic copies of the km to me.
has anyone else received calls like this?
i've missed quite a few meeting (it's been nice) so am unaware if any letter has been read.
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I received a call from my book study conductor the other day asking for my email address so that he could start sending electronic copies of the KM to me. Has anyone else received calls like this? I've missed quite a few meeting (it's been nice) so am unaware if any letter has been read. I didn't have the heart to tell him he was late to the game on this one for me. In hindsight, searching for electronic KMs is in part what led me to this sight and started my quest for learning more about TTATT.
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Something to pay attention to, if you go to the Memorial...
by undercover ini'm cutting and pasting from one of my own posts from some timem ago.
if you're having to go to this thing tonight, pay attention to how the speaker explains the timing of events at the passover meal, and then compare that to what the bible actually says.... an oldie, but one of my better goodies, i think.... .
yes, it's time for that annual ritual...no, no...not the ritual of nibbling on crackers and sipping cheap wine, but the ritual of comparing wt teachings of how jesus instituted the memorial versus what the bible actually says.. current wt theology.... as cut and pasted from their own website:.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa..... CrazyGuy, the GB said that Luke got something wrong about John the Baptist's execution? They admitted that there was an error in the holy, inspired scriptures? I've got to see this. Can you provide a reference?
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Reverse Witnessing - Will NEVER work!
by MissConfused inits been a while since i spoke up.
after a lot of 'tactful' questioning, i have come under the conclusion that witnessing ttatt with dubs will never work.
there is nothing called reasoning with them.
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There was a wise owl in a children's movie that sang a song with the words "Never say never". I believe the movie was 'An American Tale'. Such wise words. Unexpected things, even things that we feel are impossible, can sometimes happen. You never know what seeds you may sow.
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I dropped TTATT to some door knockers today
by TheStumbler intwo jws came to my door today and i dropped a few truths bombs on them.
i thought i'd share my account of how the conversation went.. .
i was in the yard doing some weeding when two gentlemen walked through the gate.
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Marked for reference.
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Nauseating JW.org section for small children - CUTOUTS? Really?
by BluePill2 ini am not hot linking to jw borg, but they have a whole section for obviously very small children (become j's friend, with a whole array of caleb-related stuff).
i have actually never visited the site, today was the first time, because i wanted to check a technical information about their websites architecture and came across this sh*t!.
the way they are targeting small kids is nauseating me (i have a 5 year old, still in with her mother).
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Someone with artistic talent should redo this activity using "wordly" clothing for Caleb and Sofia.
Help Caleb/Sophia get ready for a B-day party, Christmas, Hannukah, a rave, laser tag party!