it seems that there is an ever growing number of people who are still active and are handing in "bumped up" hours.
yet, i have never seen an article acknowledging this.
to my mind, nothing has been printed that counsels witnesses on lying about their hours.. and all these bible studies - do you really see them at the meetings?
Either that or they're double dipping with the same kid.
I know one person who's been through two books already, yet still hasn't chose to "make the trooth her own". Yet those sisters still come over and study with her.
Two sisters, with one study, them both reporting the time and study individually on their timesheets?
For all their talk of big numbers of people studying and coming into the trooth, cutting that number in half would give you a more accurate rendering of the numbers.
well, i got dragged, kicking and screaming talked in to going to the assembly yesterday as a friend of mine was in the drama.
what a freaking waste of time interesting experience.
first of all, i had a tough time squeezing my larger than life ass bum into a seat that looked like it was made for a house-elf small child.
Did anyone else go the chance to attend the assembly yet?
Yeah.......I went this past weekend. You probably recognized me......I was the one walking around the Reed Center in College Station with the incredibly stupid look on my face wondering.......what the F$#% am I doing here ?
It was pretty much the same old mind-numbing crap recycled from yesteryears manuscripted garbage. You can very well tell that the internet and the media is chipping away at the membership, especially the young. Instead of the blatant, all-out attack of the media and internet as in the Beware talk of last year, they sprinkled the guilt and fear of this rival through the whole of the a$$-embly.
does anyone know where i can download a km on a monthly basis?
i checked the wt site but it would be to convenient for us to have that priveledge.
or should i say freedom?
That's not legal
What a coincidence, downloading a zip file of the latest 2003 WT CD isn't legal either.
sound familiar?.
- michael.
feore suffered for riddick .
I saw that movie this weekend also, and I couldn't help but think the same thing. The whole attitude and philosopy of the Necromongers smacked so much of the WT that for a minute I thought they were drawing a parrallel.
Of course, I didn't verbalize this observation out loud, since I was sitting with a couple of Dub relatives. I'm sure the parrallel went right over thier heads.
are you still "in"?
have you altogether stopped attending meetings?
for how long have you been "out"?
Twelve years.
Baptised in 1990.
Came to my senses late 1991.
Stopped attending meetings regularly a year later.
I was still a mere babe in the troof, still on the tit when the milk soured.
this marks the first time my wife and i didn't go to the district convention by choice (one other time we missed all three days due to illness).
my wife was sick this weekend, but we would not have gone anyways.
we probably would have gone camping this weekend if she wasn't sick and it wasn't raining all weekend.
She said they really came down hard on the internet -- especially the internet dating scene where JWs meet other JWs.
Again.
That was probably a rehashed talk relative to last year's "beware the Voice of Strangers" talk.
The more they tighten their grip, the more peopole slip through their fingers.
i haven't posted as much here as i've wanted these past few weeks, but i've spent most of my time lurking here, or in chat.
for the last few 2 months roughly, every meeting i attended became extremely painful to endure, such that i would come up with excuses to miss as many as possible.
but there are 2 events that really gave me a swift kick to wake me up and realize that things had to change.
As usual, SOJ's comment proves that if the WT comes to an emergency stop, most JWs heads would be firmly planted in the publishing corporation's a$$.
Of course, every parent who has a child that leaves the organization will start questioning their own parenting skills, they start feeling like they didn't do enough, that somehow they failed god. You start hearing things like "I should have encouraged you more to go to Bethel" and other things like that.
Oh...you are so right. One of our kids recently let it be known that there would be no way they would go back to the meetings and the wife was depressed about it for weeks. All I heard all day long was "what did I do wrong......we should've studied more.......went out in service more......had a family study.......I'm the spiritual head of this house and I failed......you don't believe anymore so you I don't expect you to understand" garbage. She was so overcome with guilt that it became nauseating to be around her.
Then, she got mad at me because I wouldn't wallow in the guilt with her.
No way......
Then, guilt is inflicted on the individual who decides to leave. I was told my decision was going to dissapoint my friends, and the rest of the congregation, and also god. I was also told by my mom "how could you do this to me?". I was made to feel that by leaving, I was the one abandonning my friends and family behind, like all of this was my fault.
Errrrrrrr.......
I don't know if I can be sure that these people are not clones of my wife.
The wife did the exact same thing, ragging the kid about how much this was goonna hurt everyone, Jehovah, and that they know it's the "truth", and how could they even think of "leaving Jehovah".
What a crock.
The whole time I was thinking, I could care less, their adult and know they're going to have to live with the decisions they make.....why should this be any concern of mine. they're supporting themselves and they're out of the house. I don't see the problem.
The wts has cleverly shifted all the attention away from them, and the problems they cause to those who decide to leave by pointing out faults in individuals who decide to leave. Anyone who even says the problem is with the organization get quickly told that they need to readjust their thinking.
And they perpetuate this mindset over and over with each other and willingly submit to this brainwashing through the 5 meetings a week they spend at the KH. There is never a problem to be found with the organization or what it teach's, the problem will always lie with the person leaving...usually they've haven't "done enough".
My suggestion to you, my friend, is find a hobby, find something you like to do, and get busy doing it, dont' let anyone or anything get in your way. those WT enhanced "guilt triggers" lie deep and can crush you if you let them.
My hobby, I can't reveal because it'll blow my identity out the water, put me in touch with like minded people I've come to call real friends.....not the fakeries that come with associating at a KH. And when the brothers found out what my new hobby was, they came by to talk with me and get information about it and I could see that they were literally green with envy.
All I really know and can be absolutely sure of in this life is that one day I'm gonna die. In the meantime, I plan on getting as much out of this life as I can and not be stifled by anyone, especially a pseudo-religious book publishing corporation.
allright let me tell you what happened yesterday.
i went to the meeting yesterday because my cousin was visiting and wanted to know where the kh was located.
i finally offered to go with her to avoid any issues.
Go in and tell them how you really feel. It may not be pleasant, but at least they'll know where you stand. And if they don't like it, f--- 'em...oh...and as Danny said, threaten to sue....lol
Well....speaking for myself, that is exactly what I did when they came to my house.
Setting the Scene:
My wife is outside doing the yard and I turn the corner by the house and see this strange car parked in front of my house. It's da "brutha's, and they're talking to the wife. As I pull into my driveway, they finish their conversation with her and walk over to talk to me. After the requisite "bullshit" smalltalk they try and get right to the point, namely, what's my schedule like and what can they do....how can they help me get back to the meetings. I flat out told them that I was not interested in going back to meetings and that I was perfectly happy with the way my life was going and progressing.
After their stunned "deer in the headlights" silence, they recover and start going on about how I'll always be welcomed to come back and how they are the encouraging sort. I tell them I know, and that I get "encouragement" from my wife all the time and that when I need help with my spirituality, I'll be sure to search out those I think can help me.
All of this was out of earshot of my wife, but i think they got the point. They thanked me for talking to them and left me standing there thinking damn, I didn't get to shake hands or get a small prayer from either of them.
I guess, since they don't consider me a "brutha" anymore, I'm not worthy.
well exactly as the title says...my 4 year old daughter, obviously tired of my dithering has taken matters into her own hands!.
the background is that i was bought up in the troof, and began my fade about 6 months ago.
i had been talking to my daughter about us not going to the meetings anymore and she accepted it very well.
My hope this day is for BBgun to be telling Shotgun the very same thing one day.
i'll start this post off by saying i love my wife, she has beautiful qualities and a sweet personality.
however i realize (and i think she does too, though she may not admit it) that since i left the org behind our goals and viewpoints are no longer unified.
as a couple we rarely fight or argue, we still have many of the same values but yet we have some issues that i know will never be fully resolved.
On lighter note:
I thought you were goign to say this:which seem to be pushing us ever closer to something we may have never imagined possible...
the Big Dgoing gay
Man......that is not an option.
I'd prefer a big poster of Ali (sp) Landry, Mary Palm and her five sisters to that.
