Posts by Stauros

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What if Jehovah's Witnesses were right about Armageddon...

by Comatose in

but god has changed his mind?

according to the bible god can and does change his mind.

the example of jonah comes to mind.

Stauros

Comatose, what a hypothetical error my friend, I can't even begin to develop a thought on the subject matter.......

E.

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Satan thrown to earth "about" 1914?

by wearewatchingyouman in

so i'm thumbing through the new "silver sword" and i notice that in the appendix under "message of the bible" that it says, "about 1914 jesus hurls the serpent satan to the earth...." i can't remeber ever hearing the word "about" and 1914 placed together before in regards to this event.

are there any jwapologists, or anyone else for that matter, who have an explanation for this?.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-b/message-of-the-bible/.

Stauros

That just plain stupid, even if only for claiming that something was "after ... and not any sooner". [jeffro]

Huh? what do you really mean?

E.

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Satan thrown to earth "about" 1914?

by wearewatchingyouman in

so i'm thumbing through the new "silver sword" and i notice that in the appendix under "message of the bible" that it says, "about 1914 jesus hurls the serpent satan to the earth...." i can't remeber ever hearing the word "about" and 1914 placed together before in regards to this event.

are there any jwapologists, or anyone else for that matter, who have an explanation for this?.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-b/message-of-the-bible/.

Stauros

Satan and his demons are cast down to the vicinity of the earth at the time the Kingdom is born (Rev. 12). This occurred after the 911 attacks and not any sooner. The war in The Middle East is the beginning of the fulfillment of the final prophecies in the bible. Compare world events to the scriptures and it will make sense.......

Estephan

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The Big Announcement..this week

by designs in

have you heard what the "big announcement" is to be this week.

supposedly the bethel homes will get some announcement today and the congregations will announce the new something by the end of the week..

Stauros

Blood Transfusions are ok as long as the donor wasn't strangled WHILE committing fornication in sacrifice to an idol.[oubliette]

I am not sure if you meant this to be humorous or not but I was tickled by it. The blood is only in reference to animals is it not? We are not to eat the blood of animals, or sacrifices to idols yada yada yada.....

E.

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Did Adam and Eve Partake of Literal Fruit or is it Symbolic?

by Stauros in

was it real fruit they ate or does the fruit represent something else?.

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Stauros

3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ”

Satan is likened to a serpent, the attributes of a serpent. It does not mean that satan appeared as a snake and then begin talking to Eve.

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

The soul that is sinning, it itself will die.......

Just an example...........

Estephan

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Did Adam and Eve Partake of Literal Fruit or is it Symbolic?

by Stauros in

was it real fruit they ate or does the fruit represent something else?.

e..

Stauros

The story as widely known has been filled out through various (Christian) interpretations. For example, nowhere does the text itself tell us what the forbidden fruit was. In early Christian tradition it was generally understood as an apple, whereas early Jewish tradition offered several opinions as to the fruit's identity, with the fig being the most popular—and contextually the most appropriate (see especially Gen. 3:7). [DM]

Well let us reason upon this for a minute. The tree of knowledge (as I have spoken of prior), is not a literal tree because no where in existence is a tree that grows knowledge. Let's compare the fruit (forbidden) to the "fruitage of the spirt". How do we know what they are if not by what we read in the bible? We obtain Godly knowledge by reading the scriptures and learning his Laws. We learn good and evil by what we see from others, and by what we might engage in ourselves. The "forbidden" fruit is wickedness, or sin. Makes sense, does it not?

Estephan

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The Big Announcement..this week

by designs in

have you heard what the "big announcement" is to be this week.

supposedly the bethel homes will get some announcement today and the congregations will announce the new something by the end of the week..

Stauros

Yes, they're bringing in new contribution boxes to commemorate 100 years of Jesus rule from 1914 that the Laodicean messenger Pastor Russell figured out (although he has been demoted from being one of the faithful and discreet slave). Here's a sneak preview: [yadayada]

For Real?

E.

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the annointed- let me get this straight

by nowwhat? in

so there are roughly 12,000 "annointed" here on earth right now.

even though they are christ's brothers and the new testament was written just for them, they have no say on how "jehovah's organazation" is run and the the things taught.

makes sense to me!!!

Stauros

what Kings, if you look at Rev 5:10 in the actual greek, it does not say kings. And if you look closer the scripture is describing the great crowd and not the 144k. Not to mention the 144k are never refered to as Anoited. [crazyguy]

I agree with you. I am referring to King David, Solomon, etc. etc.

The Hebrew verb mashach (noun, messiah ) and the Greek verb chrio (noun, christos ) are translated “to anoint.” From ancient times the priests and kings were ceremonially anointed as a sign of official appointment to office, and as a symbol of God's power upon them. The act was imbued with an element of awe. David would not harm King Saul because of the anointing the king had received ( 1 Samuel 24:6 ). Likewise, Israel ( Psalm 89:38 ), and even Cyrus ( Isaiah 45:1 ) are called God's anointed because of God's working through them. Israel came to see each succeeding king as God's anointed one, the messiah who would deliver them from their enemies and establish the nation as God's presence on the earth.

Who anointed those claiming to be of the anointed within the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses? No one did, therefore they are not anointed. It is that simple........

Estephan

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the annointed- let me get this straight

by nowwhat? in

so there are roughly 12,000 "annointed" here on earth right now.

even though they are christ's brothers and the new testament was written just for them, they have no say on how "jehovah's organazation" is run and the the things taught.

makes sense to me!!!

Stauros

Only kings are anointed and none of Gods kings live on the earth.......

E.

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Sanctify Gods name

by Crazyguy in

ok so thats what jesus said we must do, so the question at hand is, does going around the world telling people that gods name is jehovah does this really sanctify his name, really????

so if i went around my town and told every one that satans name is lucifer will this make satan holy?

is this what jesus was taking about jw's, think about it.

Stauros

Sanctify is to purify or make clean. GOD has been blamed for many things that His creation has done. The truth will be made known to all creation, which will make GOD clean and pure as He truly is.......

Estephan