What if Jehovah's Witnesses were right about Armageddon...

by Comatose 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    but god has changed his mind? According to the bible god can and does change his mind. The example of Jonah comes to mind. What if in the early years they had it right. The end was coming maybe even in 1975. Their first understanding of generation was right. But, then god saw things were getting better. God saw that people were doing okay on their own. God hit pause or even changed his mind.

    Now JW.org is just like Jonah crying over his bottle gourd and wishing for the death of billions because they proclaimed it.

  • UBM101
    UBM101

    Because Jehovah had seen that the number of JWs were increasing from a few bible students to 8 million, He changed His mind ...

  • Stauros
    Stauros

    Comatose, what a hypothetical error my friend, I can't even begin to develop a thought on the subject matter.......

    E.

  • prologos
    prologos

    since the WT is the EMBODYMENT of Jehovah (to use patent language) ,

    he not only changes his mind but has regrets (we regret having published that, 1975)

    is there a Democles' Sword aka jehovah's wrath hanging over mankind?

    enjoy yourself, it's later than you think, the song.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    The Watchtower being spiritually blind can only conceive of Armageddon in physical terms.

    What if Armageddon is the spiritual battle between religion and the gospel, and has already been underway for sometime?

    Checkmate for the harlotrous apostate Watchtower, their Sanhedrin (GB) and their "ruling religious clergy class"...

  • designs
    designs

    The Wt. leaders like the Evangelicals can never buy into the 'god will change his mind about Armageddon' it would ruin their business model.

  • fiddler
    fiddler

    What if Jehovah's Witnesses were right about Armageddon...

    Well............they're not.

    But if we entertain the idea that they once were???

    ..............that is exactly what I was thinking back when I first left the religion of my birth. The situation had definitly changed! There were too many good folks out there in ALL religions and also NO religious belief. The situation had truly changed.

    It was sort of a bronze age mentality meets today.

    As freedom loving humans we would not go back to tribal bronze age rules like stoning our children to death for being mouthy.......would we? So why accept that a loving god would kill billions of people simply because they weren't Jehovah's witnesses, a religious group that comprises less than .001% of the human population?

    If you want to accept that it would be RIGHT to do the above, i.e. killing your mouthy teenagers and 7 billion + people then ask yourselves:

    Would I even WANT to live in a world that is left to serve a deity like that?

  • anonymouz
    anonymouz

    Many religions are right about Armageddon. JWs as well. But the nature of it and significance of the "place" eludes many. With JW it is the timing that eludes them. JWs think "it can end any day now brothers!!!".

    But according to Bible logic, prophecy, and the basic globalization process of the rival world government of humans on planet earth (8th King) a final cycle (Dan12; Rev8-11; Rev16 parallel) and another decade prior to full human international government actually completing is required.

    And without that "8th King" actually being a KING beyond a UN "image" meaning (Rev13:11-15), function and scope, there can be no Armageddon. It needs to be a real world government fully empowered internationally, a real 8th King full bodied "scarlet wildbeast". (Rev17:8-18)

    So JWs have premature expectations and a stalled theology that will toss them into the beginning of that final cycle as bewildered as the next guy, because it must go on a number of years (Dan8:14; + Dan12:7(Rev11:2-3)) and a few Bible events and world events beyond the JW "deadline" also must manifest as per Bible prophecy and internationalist projections marking the final progression.

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    So if you are privvy to basic logical appreciation, over the next decade human "8th King" world government will indeed become vocal prior to completion beyond current elite murmurings and low key press. Once the world has passed the "point of no return" for national sovereign power (financially next; (Dan11:42-43)), soon to start the final slide of national sovereign declination into internationalist ascendancy, you can gauge UN centric world governmental totality of international completion by their own announcements.

    And that is your monitor to know when an "Armageddon event" of divine intervention could actually be all systems go. As the UN world government completes, that would also trigger Armageddon prelude finalities. (Dan8:25; Dan11:45 Dan12:11; Rev11:7; Rev19:19-21)

    So JWs live mentally in 1970 perpetual world snapshot as to globalization awareness as the primary basis of the "gathering" power of Rev16:13-16 as foundational world government power internationally. They got the basic gist of a sort of repeating Genesis 11 "globalism" and divine intervention nature of an Armageddon event on a renewed form of globalized world kingdom (Zeph3:8-9), but they are premature in it's manifestation forecast, and it's basic prophetic requirement to have a completed and announced (1Thess5:1-3) rival world government as full 8th King for Christ's Kingdom to be fighting.

    If God and Christ came down "any day now", they would find no human Kingdom ready for battle; (Joel3:9-12).

    Thus by plain logic, the 8th King actual world governemt must complete before any Armageddon divine war could even theoretically manifest. And that will require a final globalization cycle for full national sovereign deposition of financial and governmental "power and authority" completely (Rev17:12-18), and that will take a good decade to achieve.

    The final cycle can start any day (Dan11:42-45), but it can not end as expected by JWs prematurely, before that final cycle completes.

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    Since EVERYONEclaiming to be a Christian comes under the "umbrella" mentioned at 1 Peter 4:17, it's reasonable to conclude that EVERYONE whom Paul speaks of at 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12 - all the liars and deceivers - will have to be dealt with first, exactly as Christ warned the "stars" in the congregation that he was going to deal with them! (Revelation chapters 2 & 3)

    Every Christian group on the planet claims to have "the truth" and teaches it to their respective 'flocks', not just the Witnesses, so everyone will have to render an account when the Master returns to settle accounts with his slaves - especially those doing the teaching! (James 3:1)

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    "What if Jehovah's Witnesses were right about Armageddon..."

    Just stop there...that sentence is not logical.

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