Topics Started by kls
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What do jws go by? confused
by kls ini have been out of the cult for a long time,27yrs.so i don't remember a whole lot.some threads bring up old watchtowers or awakes ,etc or past predictions .when i bring these past teachings up to my jw husband he say's,,that was in the past we did not know any better, god will tell us when we need to know,we are still learning.so do jws follow old teachings or new?
i am really confused,should i not bring up old teachings?is it old new what.
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we could be any were
by kls indid you ever wonder when youre out in youre car or in a store or just being around people , it could be someone from in here,or you hear someone talking and you think, ,,,that sounds like so and so,,, could it be ?
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should shunning be reversed?
by kls init is so sad when i read threads of persons finding their in a cult, and want out .problem ,their family will shun them and ignore there own children and close family members.what if things were reversed?
what if the person leaving this cult shunned their loved ones, letting them know they are being brainwashed and you don't want their sick beliefs being pushed on them all over again.
i do believe cult members enjoy shunning , it makes them feel superior and they feel they are taking a strong stand just like the gb says to do .give them a taste of what they dish out ,shun the jw, if they won't convert to using their own mind, shun them with out guilt .
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Sharring my secrets..continues..and the end
by kls inlet me say first i am not telling this for sympothy in any way, my growing up is a lot better then a lot of kids,the horror some of these defenseless babys and children have, the death penalty is to good.the reason i call these threads ..my secrets, is something you dont talk about outside those walls as i am sure other's on this sight can relate to.i am telling my story so many of you can understand why i am trying so hard and long to get my husband out of this sick cult.he is all i have known since i was fifteen.some of you have asked if my parents were jws?
no catholics,some asked why the neighbors did nothing ,no one wanted to get their nose dirty i guess and two neighbors were cops.before i start more of my life ,please when i wright a thread about what ever ...please dont tell me i need to talk to someone or i am feeling this way because of my child hood.if any thing it has made me a strong person in many ways.i as many in simular situations are good at blocking things out and becoming callus to situations.i promised not do drag this on and here i go .all right i will shut up and get on with it.growing up i learned there are, mean drunks, nice drunks, quiet drunks,etc.lucky me mom was a mean drunk.when she did get out of her bed , for her alcohlic delivery,my sister and i would run upstairs to our room and push our beds against the door .i can't say some of the things she had done to me ,it is to hard.notice i said things done to me , i always felt my mother hated me , she always treated me cruel,punishing me for no reason or just letting me know i was worthless.finally during one of her trips out of her room to get the wonder juice delivery, she stopped to tell me how i ruined her life by becoming pregnant with me,i guess the story goes my mother was going to leave my father and one night he raped her and became pregnant with me .oh ya it was my idea to just jump in her womb.any way thats just some .more tid bits of home.living with my syco sister didnt last to long ,my other sister now almost eighteen was married and had a baby, me i was fifteen and pregnant waiting for my sixteenth b-day( pagan) to get married.well got married things were rough but alright till a cult member started to talk to my husband at work, well he told me we got sucked in , after a year or two i felt something was wrong with this so i left it but my husband was trapped.to me i have a much stronger mentality were as my husband who says he had a good childhood is very weak and gullible.next had four great kids (my life) and a husband whose life is work, the hall, and himself.now i am fortyfive all kids grown and gone but one ,he's ninteen.i am always in contact with my next oldest sister,but not with my oldest.
my brother i see a few times a year , and mother, she was constantly put in nut houses and would get out and go soeone would put her back in .
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sharring my secrets
by kls inyou all are so special, i just finished reading the thread i posted the other day and again you all made me cry(probably girl thing) not in a bad way but in a happy way,sometimes i think i found you guys just in time.so because of your caring i would like to share my life story,no i won,t drag it on.i was raised in a home with two sisters and a brother,i was the youngest ,i am three years younger then one sister ,ten years between my other sister and twelve years younger then my brother.father was a beater,belts,boards but his favorite was his fists,i went to school with plenty of black eyes and lying were they came from.my older sister and brother were married and out of the house and very seldom visited.as kids my brother and sister were beat also so there was alot of tenson when they did visit.so with my one sister and me we take the beatings for them and hide in our rooms hoping we didn,t do any thing to irritate our parents.my mother , i swear she would blow things out of perportion just to see us get beat , i think because she was beat so offen by my dad , i would hear them in my room at night or in the day , the shit would start to fly and we just hid.my parents were both drinkers but usually it was moderate until i was about ten years old and my sister was twelve, the drinking became out of control especially for my mom,fights got more intense till it was like living in a war zone.it got to the point that my mother never left her bedroom and was drunk twentyfour hrs.
a day, not even coming out to eat.my dad ,sister and me would do the shopping and cleaning and cooking.life was ,well for my sister and me was becoming normal .then one day coming home from school ,i see the police, my older sister and brother are there..odd, they are all crying and inform me dad killed himself and they just took his body.
well , we have funeral moms drunk at , and all of a sudden everyone is gone to their own lives while my sister and me are stealing food to live.
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those sick bastards are winning
by kls inwith the un on the tv all the time my husband is just stuck to it waiting for jw prophesis to come true it is so sick , you can just see the mind minulipulation going on in his head.i have been reading about the un and the watchtower in threads and in freeminds , i was not surprised but very hopeful that this maybe what i need to finally get my husband to see the sickness of this cult.i printed out the photocopy on freeminds and showed it to him ,also everyday he reads the dailytext thats supposed to have bible verses for each day, i compared his text with the bible and found many differences and each text ends with the wt page and yr this verse was in.well i confronted him and holy crap he went nuts , screaming , it's all lies that is an apostate sight, anyone can print anything about us.i told him i could send a letter to the un for conformation, well that did it he threw a cup and smashed it and looked crazed.you would think after all these yrs of him being in a cult i could accept it , but i can,t ,i know what it is and it makes me sick , i am starting to believe these sick asses are going to win, one way or another i will get away from this.
the despise for this cult grows by the minute.
the only thing keeping me sane is all of you , i feel very cared for here ,you all can think for yourselves and say how you feel, i think i know all of you more then my husband of 29yrs.
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WE ARE HERE FOR YOU
by kls into all in and around new york ,we are all thinking of you ,please know we care.
let board know if we can help in any way.
so sorry, so sad
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what is it loyality,obligation what?
by kls ini read threads of people who disassociated themselves from the org.from them finding they were lied to,mistreated, what ever the case may be.i was in the org.
many years ago and it just felt wrong so i stopped attending.the longer i was out and my husband stayed in, i researched the org.
as much as possible.i found the lies, i found and felt the hurt it causes familys, the one minded thinking' their way or no way.the org.
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what to make of this.
by kls inmy jw husband told me the other day he went to a car dealership and was talking to an employee there he knew, they were watching this woman walking back and forth between cars praying.my husband asked his friend what is she doing?
his friend replyed , she's been here before she is a jehovah witness, with that my husband replyed , i am a witness and we don't act like her ,praying to cars.
his friend took him inside and showed a watch tower that had been changed.
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what bible is true?
by kls inas most of you know my hubby is in the jw.
cult and every morning he reads his daily text.i asked why he needed that daily dont you know how to conduct yourself from day to day?he goes on to say ..it's bible passages,i said why not read the bible..he say's this text breakes it down and makes the daily reading easier ,read it see for yourself.well i did just that i read passages in it and checked what it said to a bible.
hum o'k it matches his bible but this other bible my daughter gave me from her lutherin church it's different which one do i believe?when asking my hubby he said all bibles change some words so it's easier to understand but ,the new world translation, is the closest there is to the origional.my question what bible is right, what bible can i use to compare that he would see his is wrong.one that is non denominational that suits a certain religion.