Posts by joe134cd

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What really is the overall objective?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

one cant help but notice all of the dramatic changes thathave been happening to the organization.

this is not the religion that i grewup in.

im not saying that the religion that i grew up in was better, justdifferent.

joe134cd

Yes I agree with XBEHERE comments that change has been brought about by the changing of the guard.

The other thing that has brought about change is survival and to stay relevant. This can be seen on their stance on the internet. If they had still maintained the same position on the internet as they did say in the early to mid 90's the ex-jw community would be running wild. Well actually it kind of already is. But they have seen the need to react to it, and are presently trying to do something about it. It just amazes me it took them 20 years to figure it out. The thing that gets me so angry is that millions were held to ransom for what proved just to be a personal opinion of group of guys in Brooklyn.

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Elephants and JWs never forget

by Joziqueen in

my mother in law lost her husband to cancer recently.

so feeling lonely and been pushed by her sister (active witness) after not stepping in a hall for 20 years she went to a sunday meeting.

one meeting where she had the surreal experience of having to watch a "special talk" on jw tv.

joe134cd

Just proves the point of dubs know no boundaries.

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This is the man who made it all happen!

by Terry in

william miller.. do you know how important this man has been to your life?

do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.

read on!.

joe134cd

Gee that's interesting. I never knew that.

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A few more random thoughts on the new Kingdom Hall design meeting

by sir82 in

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left completely unsaid at the meeting: who is going to be the owner of the property & building when all of these new khs are built?

in the current arrangement, in most cases, a local trust is set up to hold ownership.

of course, the most likely answer is "the watchtower (or whatever shell corporations they set up) will own the land & building".

joe134cd

What I find sad are the ones who really deserve to know are the most in the dark. Wake up witnesses!!! This is just an excuse to cash in on existing residential halls, rebuild again with free labour, probably burden the congregation again with a society mortgage. In a few years time there will be another excuse to sell these halls. It's always the same rinse, dry, repeat and the R&F just gulp it down.

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Arrangement to Accelerate Building Kingdom Halls

by Socrateswannabe in

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i can't believe i'm the first one to admit going to this meeting.

it was a 3 hour video stream from patterson.

the first bit was used to set up the need.

joe134cd

Clearly this is just a smoke screen, to sell all the old halls and build new. Wash, rinse, dry and repeat.

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Jehovah's Witnesses, they're big in ...

by Simon in

i just checked out google trends for "jehovah's witnesses" (denomination).

not sure if the link will be to the term but let's try:.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2fm%2f0dtdq.

joe134cd

The witnesses are dead in westernized countries. I think people are aware of them.

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Do Jehovah Witnesses give out mis-information deliberately?

by smiddy in

do you think it is possible that the g.b.is deliberately giving out mis-information to confuse either apostates or media that might be investigating them for one reason or another ?

speak out of both corners of their mouth .

and the reason they do so ?

joe134cd

OMG by the way they are going and all the dramas they get themselves involved in. It's anyone's guess as what comes out of their mouth.

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Hello

by Garrett in

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hello forum,.

i'm new here and not sure where to post.

so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.

joe134cd

I find myself parroting this every couple of weeks. It just amazes me how an organization will spend billions of dollars and countless man hours trying to get a new member and yet will do virtually nothing to retain that same member. Here is a post I made on this topic.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/274424/how-many-cong-visited-you-when-you-started-fading

You are at a Hugh advantage over us. You are young, and because of your lack of family ties in the Org just makes fading so much easier.

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An interesting comment given by an older brother during the prayer yesterday.

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have been a regular visitor to this site for several years now.

i never really felt the need to set up an account and post...until now.

at the close of yesterdays meeting, an older brother gave the prayer.

joe134cd

Yes I remember a time when the internet was literally a tool of Satan, full of apostates wanting to entrap the R&F. I even remember a recent assembly part with the theme " occupying our time with unnessary gadgets" (or something to that effect) where it was mentioned that these gadgets were occupying our time that could be used in serving Jehovah. I even remember been given council when I gave a bible reading from a print out of the Nwt. My what a reversal. The thing that I find rather thoughtless is the burden that is now been placed on the R&F to now have to pony up to buy these gadgets. For a family of 5 even for the cheapest tablets you are looking at a couple hundred bucks.

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Are people really happy at Bethel?

by The Searcher in

if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?

:).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.

joe134cd

Make no mistake. There is no way this video could of been made and put on the net with out the magnificent 7 at least having known about it and giving it the all clear. There is little doubt of this in my mind. Now if there is a negative reaction to this video by the R&F and because the GB cannot be directly implicated in giving it the ok. They can easily turn around declare a DMCA take down and blame the disobedient disloyal bethelite for running ahead of the chariot. Well that's what I think.