Posts by joe134cd

during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.

eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?

how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".

joe134cd

Sounds like a similar reply I got when I tried to mention the Conti case. "Don't read overseas news papers because this would confuse me". Another reply I got to the gonzalo campos case was "he had better and more important things to worry about". In hindsight I think you got such an intelligent reply.

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Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?

by Apognophos in

back when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.

growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.

it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?

joe134cd

Had no idea. In fact I had no idea of anything other than what Wt told me. I have learnt more about that religion in 18 months since walking out of the religion than I ever did in 4 decades been a true believer. I didn't even know there was an issue with child abuse.

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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

by Londo111 in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

joe134cd

I hope it's brodcastec in high definition 1080p. I would hate for the occasion to be ruined by poor picture quality.

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Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

by truthseekeriam in

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http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

12/19/2014order filed.

upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

joe134cd

I hope they broadcast in high definition. I would hate for the occasion to be ruined by poor picture quality. Hehe

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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

by Hidden-Window in

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as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

what about you?.

joe134cd

10 absolutely. But I also believe there has to be an external factor that has to lead you to it. For instance I wasn't happy with the religion which in turn caused me to doubt. It wasn't until I got on the internet that the house of cards really began to fall. It just saddens me that it took me just under 40 years to realise it.

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Mario Marino. Dose anyone know him

by joe134cd in

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it's a name i've been hearing a lot lately.

dose anyone personally know him.

are there any photos of what he looks like.

joe134cd

It's a name I've been hearing a lot lately. Dose anyone personally know him. Are there any photos of what he looks like. I've searched both on here and on Google and nothing has come up with regard to him as a person just the quotes he made as a Wt lawyer. I'm just curious to know a little about the man behind the name.

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If conservative GB members died tonight, would there be real change?

by stillajwexelder in

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governing body members .

theodore jaracz,.

john barr, carey barber, albert schroeder,.

joe134cd

Well the answer to that question 10 years latter is yes. The old guard has mostly died off. We're got a more liberal approach to the internet. Jw.org craze.dancing to Pharrell Williams songs in the KH. F&DS not anointed run the show now. These are just a few. Perhaps others can enlighten us with more.

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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

by Qcmbr in

ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

joe134cd

Jw daughter I'm just curious but how did you come to gave experience with both religions.