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  CANDACE CONTI & THE NEW CONTRIBUTION DEMAND

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when the org lost the candace conti case, the court ordered (pending the appeal) that the org would have to deposit several million$ as security.

  the puzzling thing is, the org got a bond company to put up the millions, thereby incurring heavy interest charges.

  i've always wondered, 'why?????????'.

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  Interesting
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  What Can An Incorporated Congregation Of Jehovah Witnesses Do To Keep Ownership Of Their Kingdom And Not Let The Watchtower Corporation Sell It Off To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what's your ideas?.

  is their some loophole in the very structured bylaws of an incorporated congregation of jehovah's witnesses that will allow them to retain property rights and avoid a hostile take over by the mother corporation controled by the governing body aka faithful and discreet slave entity?.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/loophole.

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  Interestingly when I was awakening and becoming aware of this, I made an enquirie about this with the P.O at the time. The reply I got was telling.

  "I'm not really sure. I dont really like to get involved in these things". I just thought to myself you total F $=% wit. How could of you made a decision like that with out not wanting to get involved in it. The man was just totally unaware of what he had just done.
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  My Satantic Smurf Scratch n' Sniff Stickers Story (True!)

  by Phaedra in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in the early 80s when i was around 9 or 10, my slightly-older best jw friend relished telling me all the latest scare stories she heard about the satanic smurfs popping off of wallpaper, cutting babies with sharp objects, and running through kingdom hall corridors swearing.

  wide-eyed with no critical thinking skills at.

  i listened and believed every single word.

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  Are you still married to him.
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  Is sex abuse in the Wt that big of a problem

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  before i start, i'm not a wt apologist and i am certainly not trying to minimise sex abuse.

  i was looking at the amount of sex abuse cases in light of witness population.

  just say wt ended up on paying out on 30,000 individual abuse cases.

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  Before I start, I'm not a Wt apologist and I am certainly not trying to minimise sex abuse. I was looking at the amount of sex abuse cases in light of witness population. Just say Wt ended up on paying out on 30,000 individual abuse cases. Doing simple maths 30000 / 8000000 publishers x 100 = 0.375%.

  Interestingly the Pope came out today and admitted that 2% of Catholic Priests were pedophiles amounting to 8000 priests. This is accounting for those who were under direct oversight of the RCC. God only knows how many more there would be amongst the members. I think the abuse cases with the RCC & WT differ in many ways. The Priests were employees of the catholic church and there for the churh had over sight over their employees actions. The Catholic Church should of known better. With the watchtower case, some of the offenders were not employees of Wt making it harder to make Wt accountable. Here's an example. Just say I join a running club of which one of the members is a known thief, and he then steals off me. Hey it would of been nice if someone told me, but the club can't be held responsible for not telling me.

  Ok just say I DA myself over the abuse issue. So where else do I go. I certainly wouldn't go to the Catholic Church because I believe they have got an even bigger problem.

  I realise that the Catholic Church is far bigger, but when you consider the circumstances surrounding many of the Wt cases and the volume of them. Is it really just a bunch of angry ex members trying to make a big deal out of something that is no more prevalent in other religious groups.
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  Is their any evidence/proof that the G.B.enjoy first class flights accomodation in their travels ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i`m just curious about the travel arrangements of the g.b.members when they travel overseas to conventions in europe , africa , australia , etc.. is their any verifiable documents /receipts etc.

  that prove they stay in the most up market hotels , or fly first class in planes ?, being treated like v.i.p.`s ?.

  no human being is exempt from the temptations of abusing his power or position of authourity , especially when big money is involved , and the g.b.

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  I can't remember Ray Franz making any mention of special privileges while traveling, and he dose talk extensively of his round the world trips. Mind you that was 34 years ago.
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  Interesting talk with an uber dub relative today

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my relative asked me a question today of why half the witnesses in this country had to travel to the opposite end of the country to attend a convention, when in some areas it would of been closer to attend a convention that was only 3.5 hours up the road.

  i replied by saying the society could be getting some sort of benefits if they can prove they can bring x amount of dollars into the city.

  she replied by saying they would never do that.

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  My relative asked me a question today of why half the witnesses in this country had to travel to the opposite end of the country to attend a convention, when in some areas it would of been closer to attend a convention that was only 3.5 hours up the road. I replied by saying the society could be getting some sort of benefits if they can prove they can bring x amount of dollars into the city. She replied by saying they would never do that. I just had to bite my tongue and walked away.
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  Name Some Things That JWs Look Down Upon That Normal People Wouldn't Even Think About?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jws look down on others for saying, "bless you" if someone sneezes.

  it has something to do with the demons.

  another example is that it is considered satanic if a man took his hat off for a lady!

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  I remember been told off by an elder because I had gone to see "Return of the Jedi". Because as a witnesses we don't practice war e.g Star Wars. I kid you not.
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  Modern JW Org

  by Infowarrior in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqru9keiw4.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsfyfiyzgg.

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  I must admit this is a big step forward.
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  Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.

  given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.

  i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.

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  Although I can't speak Spanish I'm so happy that this is ready to go. It would be interesting to see what effect this will have on the Spanish speaking community. Best of luck.
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  A "follow up" meeting?!?!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, now they want a follow up visit!

  when you tell the elders that you have doubts and they say " its okay, we have had our doubts.

  having doubts is not apostasy.

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  That's a good one big mac. Why didn't I think of that one.