No you are selective reading, Mr Mob. *slaps forehead and swears society needs a mandatory IQ test*
I said "He's out NOW and is a truck driver" (Past Tense) Read it again!! Where did I say dubs is not allowed to be truck drivers? If I believed that, I would have stated that plainly and clearly! QUIT SELECTIVE READING PLEASE!!! There's nothing more annoying than people skimming over paragraphs. *sheesh!*
I guess you have turned him from cult salesman into a
prostitute murderer!
WT? Is your brain seriously broken?
Seriously, are you surprised his wife doesn't want to know him? Did he or she use the custody book? (your commentry gets a little lost here). If he did then I am really not surprised she kicked him into touch!
What? He used the custody book. His wife refused to become a JW, so he divorced her, then got help from an Elder who showed him the WTS custody book and got custody of his only son who as a baby at the time. Make sense now? I hope so.
How did you get him out? You said you spent months with him. How did you do it?
He was a co-worker of mine, he worked 3rd shift and I worked 2nd shift, so when I got off and he was coming, when business was slow, so I hung out with him and we chatted vis ASL (he's was an Interpreter for his then congregation that he was a member of, but isn't anymore)
I started out using scriptures and using formulated questions that forces him to think rather than automatically spouting out WT dogma that he was trained to do. The best way to teach a JW about the WTS is to use questions w/o letting him/her know that you are teaching them. They're trained to be defensive the second they hear critical thinking of the WTS. To bypass that training, I used what they're trained to do, to answer questions.
They love to answer questions, their ego loves it. That's their weakness. I took advantage of that. So I formulate questions that makes them go, "Huh?" and they have to stop and THINK how to answer them rather than the canned answers that they are given.
After a while, I start using publications, pointing out false prophecies, doctinal changes. If they start getting defensive, I tell them to check it out for themselves. If they start using the "apostate" line, I ask them "Do you mean to tell me that WTS publishes apostate materials??" and they have to say, "NO!" and if they say "New Light", I show Charles Taze Russell's statement that "new light does not extinguish old light, but adds to them".
I use very little on publications and I avoid the Trinity doctrine because that never gets anywhere. That's something I talk about as the last thing once they are first OUT of the WTS, not before. It's a waste of time arguing Trinity doctrine. Never gets anywhere as I learned the hard way.
The bible is what I make most use of and I often share my experience as a Christian going to church where free thinking is allowed and being accepted as you are w/o having to do works in order to be accepted unlike what and how JWs treat their fellow members, I try to make him see the greener side of things a bit. We talked about shunning and he admitted he had some problems with that because he looks at his baby boy and has a hard time with the idea of shunning him if it ever came around to that. He quit his job because it got to be too much for all the information that was overloading his brain, that was in 1984.
He left in 1986 after he realized he got suckered and tried to apologize to his ex-wife and that he got duped. He wanted his wife back but she was already into another relationship and is bitter about the custody issue and he made her look like crap in court and a bad mother. She did not want anything to do with him. The only thing he could do to make up some with her is he agreed to joint custody whereas he didn't before as a JW.
He did come looking for me while I was off that day and he left me a message, "sorry I missed you" and left me a phone number So I called the deaf relay and connected to him and we spoke very briefly. He thanked me for waking him up and it took a while to start seeing what I was trying to tell him all along. So he disassociated himself. After that, he got a job as a truck driver and his route just happen to be my way so he stopped over on his way to his destination. Sorry I missed him. We haven't made contact since then. I wonder how he is doing now?
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