I think of it this way there are some points you agree with and some you don't.Who cares, if someone ask you a Q you can choose to tell or keep it to yourself.The only people you answer to is to God or his Son and to NO human.Remember you confess to God NOT MAN. So if someone ask you a Q just say I confess to God not Man.Those are Q's that are not appropriate to ask and make that plain an clear. Just be nice and tell them who is man to judge man only God judges man.I think of it this way don't give anyone any Fuel to fire, just don't say anything, I mean what is it going to fix......Nothing.Just do your only thing from what you see is the real truth from the bible, thats all.Take care and hope all is well!!!!!
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When is it not worth helping JW's out of the org?
by sleepy in.
being an ex-jw who would love to see my friends and other out of the jehovahs witness organisation i face a dilemma, is it always in a persons best interests to know the truth about the truth?.
when i first decided to leave the organisation, i was happy to speak to my family about why i disagreed with the organisation.then about 6 months ago my father was diagnosed with terminal cancer of the lungs (due to asbestos poisioning.if you think the governing body are corupt they are nothing compared to the people who produced this stuff).i have desided it best not to mention anything about the organisation untill my family recovers from my fathers death.. so since then i have not said a word about the "truth".that would be so counter productive to my fathers mental health, his and the rest of the families happiness can be only be found in the hope of a resurection , no matter how unfounded that hope is.. i have bumped into some elders from time to time who are in their late 70's and spent all their adult lives in the truth, how about them?there are many in the congregations suffering from depression and other mental problems, what would our knowledge do to them?should we be taking the intiative to help these out, or could we do more harm than good to them?of course i can't know how knowing what know about the truth will effect some people.will it make their lives better or worse.will it free some to fufill their ambitions and desires living a full and happy life or will others be full of regret , deprestion and sadness, maybe even some would comit suicide.. what part will i have played if its me that persuades them?should i wait to be asked about the organiasion, or should i take the initative, is it really up to me to judge who can "take" it and who can't?
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Was Adam created immortal?
by Mr Bean in22 and the lord god said, behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:.
23 therefore the lord god sent him forth from the garden of eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.. 24 so he drove out the man: and he placed at the east of the garden of eden cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.. .
if he would eat from that tree, he would have live forever.
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archangel01
I don't think the tree of life was a literal tree.For satan said to eve is it really so not to eat from every tree.He didn't say if you can eat from that tree (tree of life) why can't you eat of this tree.God has a sense of humor when he said to his son "Here the man is like one of us".Jesus didn't need to eat of any tree to be perfect or stay alive then what would be the point of trying to kill him if he was already dead like us, get it.The tree of life is Not literal it is used as an example/illustration that symbolize life.In other words they would always crave life because they lost life from a tree so it is only fitting that God used another tree as an "illustration" meaning to get life back. And because that symbolic tree of life is in the garden and since they are kicked out of it they don't have (everlasting) life and will die an will alway long for that other symbolic tree meaning (Life).I hope this helps
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If you're happy - don't look at this
by Gizmo inif i'm not feeling any less sour.
i promise myself to treat myself.
and visit a nearby tower.
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archangel01
Man doesn't have the power to judge ONLY GOD DOES.Jesus didn't care what man throught of him, he only cared about what GOD THROUGHT. In the end EVERYONE is judged not by works but by FAITH.Read the book (IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM BY RAYMOND FRAZ) MY LITTLE LOST SHEEP FOR "YOU" HAVE BEEN FOUND.OH AND YES THE BOOK USES THE BIBLE IN FULL DETAIL TO SHOW HOW THE WTC ACTS BADLY AND UNJUST.The truth will set YOU FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember we may not know you BUT we are ALL HERE FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU KNOW WHO ARE YOUR REAL FRIENDS WHEN YOU FACE TRIALS.FRIENDS STICK TOGETHER NOT JUST FOR THE GOOD TIMES BUT FOR THE BAD ONES AS WELL.
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J.R. Brown SLANDERS Barbara Anderson
by UnDisfellowshipped inbelow is a timeline of newspaper quotes in which j.r. brown lied about and slandered barbara anderson: .
washingtonpost.com news (associated press ap) - may 11th 2002:.
saturday, may 11, 2002; page b08.
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Whats there too rejust?If the WTC followed the bible and turn the abuses into the police for proper justice none of this would have happen.The WTC is in a BIG mess and now they can't climb out so easily this time, because people are really pissed now because kids are being hurt.I think you can only push someone so far that nothing matters any more and you have nothing to gain or lose.Its all about JUSTICE now and the WTC seems to be forgetting about that.
Edited by - archangel01 on 25 December 2002 7:27:27
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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!
by UnDisfellowshipped inmarch 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.
"scream!
scream!
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MAN MADE RULES ARE FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PEOPLE ARE RAPED MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.What if someone puts something in your drink and you wake up with no cloths on and cum all over you, then what its not your fault.Or what if someone puts a knife to you and said if you don't have sex with me I'll kill you and then I'll kill your kids who are in the next room, then what. What if you lost your voice and can't scream.Thats why Jehovah reads the HEART and he knows when its in PAIN and the REAL truth of the matter and thats what really counts.Besides a Court of Law saids otherwise and what about all the screams of all the abused kids in the ORG that they DIDN"T listen too.They make me SICK and my HEART is in DEEEEEEP PAIN!!!!!!!!!!Thank God for the LAWS OF THE LAND where there is a sense of JUSTICE for the most part.If the ORG wants to be or act like COPS then go to school and learn the REAL FACTS, laws of the land and all the police stuff and get a deleted clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have no heart for real people and the many bad things that DO happen.I don't know who is worse the rapist or THEM... THE WTB/ORG.Its bad enough you got raped now you have to get mind raped(deleted) TOO.Enough is Enough already I think people need to once and for ALL put the WTC in there place and if they are not going to help the victim then shut the deleted up and let the REAL POLICE DO THEIR JOB!The courts now are not going to put up with that kind of shit believe me, and they are just digging there own grave deeper and deeper!!!!!!!!!!!!!Someone is going to say something/wrong thing to the victim and that person is going to lose it even more and go off the deep end and someone is going to get killed/hurt.
Woe Woe Woe for the earth because the WT has come down with great anger because they know there time is short!
Edited by - archangel01 on 24 December 2002 5:4:23
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running scared - Elder sighted off the port bow!
by czarofmischief inthe repercussions of my argument with my mother on the phone the other week are starting to make themselves felt.
let me be clear: i've been disfellowshipped from the org for two years now.
i'm loving my freedom of thought.. so i was talking to my mom [still in the borg] and started expressing myself on various subjects on which i disagree, or at least see room for philosophical "wiggle room" with the society's viewpoints.
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If you are shun then noone can talk to you.so if the elders can talk to you then everyone can.Thats a double standard.Do as I say Not as I do.Just talk to see where it goes and maybe this guys is on the up and up.I guess or would say give the guy a chance maybe he really wants to help you.I don't have all the answers but just give that person a chance if he really means it.I guess YOU set the good example and put them to shame like jesus said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Atkins - good or bad?
by zenpunk ini keep hearing good and bad about the atkins diet.
i started it a month ago not really to lose weight, but, i had heard that atkins eliminates sluggishness during the day and insomnia at night.
what was startling was the amount of energy i gained.
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Its bad if you have a bad health history.DON'T DO IT.If you have diabetes that is NOT the diet for you.You see people with diabetes NEED SOME SUGAR or else they will get dizzy and fall into a coma. The Atkins diet isn't good because it is not balance when it comes to food.A diet of 800-1000 cal. or less a day will result in fast weight lost. About 1200-1500 cal. a day is a good start then again only you know how or what works for you.Try to eat 4 little meals through out the day. Don't eat to much fresh fruit because the sugars will slow your metabolism down.So eat fresh fruit right BEFORE you work out.You need to work out but not hard in the beginning because you want to tone up and slim down at the same time.So do light weights and about 30-45mins of running on a tread mill or fast walking.Once you reach you goal and are toned up then you can use heavy weights and powder drinks to get more muscle mass for the men and a more toned look for the ladies.There is know right way you just have to shop around and see what works and what don't, but working out is the KEY never the less.
Edited by - archangel01 on 23 December 2002 0:35:35
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WTO is covering up the real date of Memorial
by spinner ini posted a web site, www.hurryupjesus.com.
it contained the original calendar god gave moses 3500 years ago.. the directions for this was given by jesus himself (on calendar), so the wto has a jewish judge involved, who ordered all our assets taken, and even had my husband locked up without hearings.
it proves jesus existed!
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So when is the REAL date? So that we can ALL make Jesus happy an Honer his day of ransom!!!!!!
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Russell the messenger
by Beans inhere is some interesting views of the former leader.. http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/russell.htm.
*** watchtower 1917 november 1 p.323 ***.
[note: not available on 1993/1995/1999 cd-rom] .
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archangel01
I think of it this way. C Taze R. was on to something now its up to us to put it all together with things happening in our day.The end must be close, but the good old Q is When? Reading the gospal and finding out what is literal and what applys to our time is the Key.Remember when JOHN saw the vision of REV. he saw into the future, our time at some point. So we have to think like JOHN and then relate it to our world.Like for example JOHN saw lots of different animals.We know that its not real animals but animals that appear on flags from each land and we see that with the UN or GOVERMENTS of our day.I know its deep but maybe somehow someone will put it all together or maybe it will all play out and we will find out as time moves on etc.
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The Elders are coming over
by Princess inafter seven years we finally got a call from an elder this morning.
he wants to come over and talk to steve (he wouldn't talk to me or give me any message).
this particular elder was from steve's old congregation in austin, texas.
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Yes and No
Take care of a sick family member or friend.When you think about it there is Alway someone who is sick and on the ver. of death in a family or a friend for that matter.Those people need your help and you just tell them that its not a good time and why.I wonder what a Judge would think or say "You kicked them out because they were taking care of so & so who was very sick".Tell the truth and you can't go wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by - archangel01 on 22 December 2002 4:5:35