My dad cashed in his pension, quit his job, wrote to the society asking where the need was great and moved to the boonies. He bought a book called "Famine 1975", which the WT had quoted. He would bring it up on the podium, hold it up for all to see, and refer to it in his talks. He loved the book because he felt even worldly persons were comfirming the WT was right. We would also often hear a quote from some other nutcase specialist that said something like "In 1975 the world would be too dangerous to live in". As you may guess the book disappeared from our library soon after 1975 slipped by, the family moved back to civilization and the whole incident was quickly erased from his memory. 1975, never happened. Typical case of JW's being in denial.
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Jehovahs Witnesses taught that Armageddon would occur in 1914,1915,1918,1921,1925,1932,1941 and 1975. Who is the father
by Little Imp ini saw a very long thread on answerbag answering the above question in which there are several jws responding and denyng vehemently what is said in the question.
in some places being quite rude to people.
the dialogue highlighted yellow is me, the text highlighted blue is someone who is agreeing that the jws did preach this.
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Please post all the little things that make no sense about the JWs
by Aussie Oz ini want to collect a bunch of things that i can use to help my son see that the wbts and being a jw makes no sense.. i have a few in mind already.
they have to be things that might matter to a teenager, so doctrine will probably be out!.
(if you have read my last post you will see why).
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Does it make sense to report and be judged by the time you talk about God?
Shouldn't the kind of person you are be more important?
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Please post all the little things that make no sense about the JWs
by Aussie Oz ini want to collect a bunch of things that i can use to help my son see that the wbts and being a jw makes no sense.. i have a few in mind already.
they have to be things that might matter to a teenager, so doctrine will probably be out!.
(if you have read my last post you will see why).
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Sorry OZ posted on your other thread...instead of here
sports / teams - a no-no for JW children
sinful competition as they say- or the team spirit that they really fear
contradiction - JW dads spend hours watching competitive sports on TV - most will attend events - they all have their favourite team - our D.O used to make unabashed allusion to his favourite in Ass talks.......but the WT forbids kids participation
I would point out the real reason is evidently not the competition that the WT wants to avoid. If so it would be deemed a sin to be a spectator or to root for a particular team. What they really want to avoid is a JW kid becoming tight with worldlies (and discovering great friendships outside of the cult)
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Working on the kids...not at ease.
by Aussie Oz insometimes i feel like i am going to lose the 'battle' for my kids.
it's hard when you only get to see them every second weekend and my boy even less now that he has his drivers licence...mates are more important than seeing dad you know.. daughter is the deeper thinking one i think.
i asked her who's message is this to which she made a guess at the witnesses.
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sports / teams - a no-no for JW children
sinful competition as they say- or the team spirit that they really fear
contradiction - JW dads spend hours watching competitive sports on TV - most will attend events - they all have their favourite team - our D.O used to make unabashed allusion to his favourite in Ass talks.......but the WT forbids kids participation
I would point out the real reason is evidently not the competition that the WT wants to avoid. If so it would be deemed a sin to be a spectator or to root for a particular team. What they really want to avoid is a JW kid becoming tight with worldlies (and discovering great friendships outside of the cult)
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Now why would the WT not ask former elders the 3rd question?
by wheelwithinwheel inin chapter 3 of ks-10, paragraph 13 (page 35), the wt corp provides the precise questions that are to be asked aspiring elders before announcing their appointment.
there are only 2 for qualifying brothers who have served previously.
brothers not having served before must be asked a 3rd.. .
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I don't believe they're worried about the victims
They're worried about the perpetrators wearing their 'elder's badge.
I believe they need to ask the question to newbies for the following reason:
If the brother answers "Yes I've molested someone." He doesn't become a legal liability for the WT because they will certainly not give him the 'clergy privilege'. If they are in a state that requires reporting all they will say is "Go to the authorities so we won't be obligated to be the ones to report you"
If the newby answers "No" and there is abuse later on when he has the WT's 'clergy privilege' they will be able to say, " We are very concerned about this growing problem in today's society. Before this person received his elder's status he was questionned on the subject and he assured us he had never been involved in abuse. We are as shocked and dismayed as you all are by the recent allegations against this individual. "
I believe the question is not to be asked of former elders in case they answer "Yes, I was". Let's just call it opening up a serious "can of worms". The WT immediately puts itself in a position like the Catholic Church knowing one of it's members was a molester while he served on their 'clergy class' It is now a major problem because they KNOW.
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@SnakesInTheTower, What did you use to call this method of service?
by donuthole inthis morning i was trying to think of what you used to call that that method of field service were we bounced all over the the territory map hitting calls that were distanced far apart to waste time.
there was a funny term you called it at the kh but i can't remember.. i'm posting this instead of private message because someone else may know.. .
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Pioneering is probably the funny term you're looking for.
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@SnakesInTheTower, What did you use to call this method of service?
by donuthole inthis morning i was trying to think of what you used to call that that method of field service were we bounced all over the the territory map hitting calls that were distanced far apart to waste time.
there was a funny term you called it at the kh but i can't remember.. i'm posting this instead of private message because someone else may know.. .
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It's called putting in pioneer hours.
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A LOS ANGELES BASED ONLINE COMMUNITY NEWSPAPER HAS ASKED FOR MY EXP. GROWING UP AS A JW.
by What-A-Coincidence inwhat the editor is asking for:.
a first-person story about your experiences as a jehovah's witness.
how did people respond when you knocked on their doors?
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Have fun writing. I'm sure it will be a great story. Congratulations
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Now why would the WT not ask former elders the 3rd question?
by wheelwithinwheel inin chapter 3 of ks-10, paragraph 13 (page 35), the wt corp provides the precise questions that are to be asked aspiring elders before announcing their appointment.
there are only 2 for qualifying brothers who have served previously.
brothers not having served before must be asked a 3rd.. .
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In chapter 3 of KS-10, paragraph 13 (page 35), the WT Corp provides the precise questions that are to be asked aspiring elders before announcing their appointment. There are only 2 for qualifying brothers who have served previously. Brothers not having served before must be asked a 3rd.
To be clear, brothers having served in the past, are not to be asked if they were ever involved in pedophilia. Does that mean the WT believes it can take for granted that a brother who’s has already served could never have been involved in child abuse?
I think it’s just the opposite. And I’m convinced this directive has everything to do with accountability, liability, ass-covering and don’t ask…don’t tell.
For anyone who is still trying to believe there are no child abusers among the JW clergy-class, I think this paragraph underlines how big the legal problem of pedophile servants has to be for the WT.
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My Dad's passing
by happyexjw inquite a while ago i wrote about my dad who has been living with prostate cancer for 13 years with secondry bone cancer for the last 2 years.
we all thought he was going to leave us back in april when he had a bad chest infection.
i was talking about wanting to be able to say some words at his funeral.
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So sorry HEJ
It was really nice for you all to have been with your father in his last breaths, loving and reassuring him. Your mother will now need a lot of support. I'm glad to hear you are there for her and she appreciates your help and love. It's a difficult time to go through
Peace and strength
Wheels