The sad part is, even if you did go back just for family, IT'S NOT REALLY YOUR FAMILY! IT'S THE JW VERSION OF YOUR FAMILY! The same for friends and anyone you know that is still in. Nobody is allowed to truly be themselves. So many have been in for so long that they don't even know who they are anymore and the born-ins never had a chance to become themselves.
vajeni82
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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower
by cedars inhi folks.
that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .
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I need some advice please!!! I'm torn on what to do.
by Gojira_101 inthis morning i woke up thinking about a friend of mine, i will call her sara...here's some of the back story.. we grew up together and have always been good friends, even though we wouldn't stay in touch, we would just pick up where we left off.
sara has always been different, and i never really knew what it was growing up, but i didn't care, she was my friend.
so we lost touch for many years and then about 4 yrs ago when i went back to my home town, we reconnected.
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vajeni82
It's never a bad idea to reach out to a friend!
Even if she is a JW sympathizer or still believes, you are not commiting any wrongdoing by contacting her. It's her choice to react. You would be doing the right thing.
I only have one friend from inside the JWs. We are both out now. Although we don't sit around obsessing about what happened to us in the organization, it's comforting to know that she understands where I've come from more than anyone ever could. I love having that!
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Another New Member
by lriddle80 ini have been out of the "truth" for about 13 years, but 9 of those years i was someone who was out but thinking i would probably go back at some point...out but not all the way out mentally.
my family are still active members and i am a little bit shunned, not invited to family get togethers, that sort of thing.
i was one of those people that left and then did drugs and partied for a while.
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vajeni82
Nice to have you with us! I'm fairly new to the forum myslef. Like you I have been out for quite a while though (11 y ears). I think you will be surprised at a lot to fhe things you will learn here. You will hear many stories & hopefully make some friends too.
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vajeni82
Welcome Gypsy & thanks for sharing your story. There are a lot of people who will find comfort and strength in what you have to say, even if they never comment. I've noticed over 700 have at least clicked on your post. You never know how many of them have had their eyes opened (even a little) by you.
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Disgusting characters in the Bible. Know any?
by punkofnice inin a recent thread zed is dead commented on lot being a scumbag.. it seems the wbt$ uses these filthy perverts as 'good examples(tm)'.. even when i was in i thought david was a piece of crap.. i vote king david as a lowlife scumbag.
murderous, adulterous, and treacherous.
(obviously he was copying that imaginary sky twat = god!!)..
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vajeni82
I vote for Laban. The father of Rachel & Leah. What kind of dad tricks somebody into marrying his ugly daugter instead of the one he promised to give him after the transaciton of 7 years' work was finished?
We had an elder in our cong. who named his daughters Rachel & Leah. I wonder if they had any complexes over that?
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NEW BLOOD CARD DIRECTIVE...
by SkyGreen inthe husband just gave me the new march km (im using it folded up as a coaster at the moment) and a new "blood card" to complete, along with a copy of a set of instructions for how to fill it out and a letter from wts to every baptised publisher.
i said to him "i wont be needing that" and gave it back to him, and he just said, well just throw it out then - no overreaction yay :o) without telling him, about a month ago, (i tore up my existing no blood directive.
our kids have never carried around "identity cards" we were never that diligent about it).
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vajeni82
Yuck! I honestly forgot about those stupid cards!
In elementary school, my mom used to make us have them on us at all times. She was too cheap to have them professionally laminated, so she covered them with packing tape, punched a hole in them and put them on a piece of yarn. We had to wear them around our necks under our shirts. All of my school pics have that stupid piece of yarn in them. I eventually got smart and started yanking it off as soon as I got to school.
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Is a slow fade being selfish when you have kids?
by dissonance_resolved inso i got some great advice to take things very slowly with the husband and kids in order to be able to fade and still maintain contact with my parents and siblings.
but today i got a call from my son's teacher that he was having a meltdown because he was worried about all his friends and teachers being destroyed at armageddon.... first i felt like such a schmuck for ever having allowed that thought to enter my son's head, then i thought, is it psychological torture for me not to immediately correct the situation?
i had a long talk with him about how god is perfectly just and full of love and he didn't have to worry about that at all, but it still seemed lukewarm.
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vajeni82
I grew up as a witness and my parents are still in. I understand how your kids have had the JW crap put into their brains. If a slow fade seems to be a better option for you, there are a couple of things you might to do to help clear your kids' minds.
When they do attend meetings, bring books and coloring sheets for them that aren't JW related. Looking at pitures of animals etc can't be considered apostate, but they will distract your kids enough from the lessons. Try putting them in an after school sport or activity. It will help them make friends that aren't JWs. They also might see them as more fun than meetings and start prefering them. Host a sleepover with a few school friends. Get a cake and streamsrs. Make it a birthday party without the birthday! Your kids will see the fun they are missing our on. They will see that it is okay to have fun wihout JWs.
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Crisis of Conscience ...should we sell the book or keep it?
by Latte inwe have a copy of this book and are wondering if we should sell it...is it worth anything?.
amazon says it's worth 20 dollars.
will it ever get to be worth more if we keep hold of it?.
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vajeni82
Depending on what format, this book is selling from $50 to $300 on Amazon at the moment. There are only 23 available. I'd hang on to it if I were you. You may not be able to find another one for a cheaper price if you should ever want to reread it or share it with anyone.
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Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?
by Julia Orwell ini've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.
i never lied on my report.
sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.
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vajeni82
I remember just putting a couple hours down so that the service elder didn't get up my butt about it. I did that a coupld of times. For the last 3 months or so, I didn't even worry about reporting. i had switched congregations & I think they thought the other one was doing it. Worked for me!
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Don't e-mail DF'd family members - Congregation Reaction (WT 1/15/2013)
by 00DAD indo not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.
- w2013 1/15, p. 16, para.
in the congregation i attend, no one--and i mean no one--commented on the directive to not communicate with df'd family members by email.
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vajeni82
Damn! No more electronic guilt trips!