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  Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

  this has got to be a joke.

  anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

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  I'm sorry, I tried to read this on jw.org but my eyes glazed over once I started reading. I copied and pasted it to a Word doc but it will probably take some alcoholic fortitude to get through it at a later time.

  It does read like one of the five-minute "plays" we used to detest writing for our parts on the "school". A five-minute play could be squeezed onto one page if you used a smallish size 9 font. This thing drones on for six pages and 2000ish words, which means the fictional householder Jon endured roughly 30 minutes of this drivel on his doorstep. Oh, that's right, "brothers" aren't limited to 5 minutes to prove a false bible teaching, my bad.
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  When did the line become so blur? Convention souvenirs & JW.org

  by fredPotato in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am pretty sure it has been discussed before here, but i just wanted to express how repulsive it is to me to see all that jw.org worship.. after looking at this picture, can you tell me where the jws are heading to?.

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  it makes me want to vomit.. cheers..

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  Phizz, what a perfect analogy. Can't wait to see it.
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  District Convention

  by thedog1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  don't know if this has been covered before, but who noticed that at every talk at the district convention (mine anyway), every speaker was introduced by name and then 'brother x has been serving for 25 years as a pioneer" or "he has served on the branch committee" etc etc.. what is it with these credentials?

  i've been an elder on and off for most of the last twenty years.

  big deal.

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  They are, and always have been, about Labels.

  Even calling each other Brother and Sister is an announcement of self-perceived pious-ness.

  Now the really important labels mention the gb (grand borgians).

  Sad that those still believing have had their ability to objectively reason on such things surgically removed.
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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  cultBgone

  All arguments aside...

  No one who has been abused in any fashion can possibly know whether it affected them adversely or not. Everything that happens to us makes an imprint on our brain, therefore we can have no idea of who we might have become had the abuse not happened.
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  If there was a pill that could open their eyes - would you give it to them?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if there was a pill you could give to your jw family members that would awaken their eyes to the truth about the cult, would you give it to them?.

  most would probably say yes.. but what about those who are completely institutionalized, the elderly, the super zealous, the geeky kids who have no friends, the misfits?.

  some people need "boundaries", they need someone to lead and give them directions, they need a sense of belonging, even in an organization that has no social programs.

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  I have to agree with OTWO. Who among us doesn't regret not knowing TTATT sooner? The less of a lovely life wasted inside a cult, the better. As for the elderly, they will still have each other as friends. And they won't be leaving all their monetary wealth to the borg.
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  Eight questions about Nathan Knorr

  by Skimmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have some questions about nathan knorr, the third president (1942-1977) of the wtbts.

  accurate answers are welcome.. 1) how did it come about that knorr was made president of the wtbts in 1942 after the death of joseph rutherford?

  rutherford as we know was an usurper inheritor of russell's wtbts in late 1916 after russell went to his reward.

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  cultBgone

  Bttt
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  We are an Evil Aposta-Family

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  2. friends

  in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.

  it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.

  we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.

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  Skinned, congratulations! Much love to your family. You have a bright future ahead!
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  Advice on fading needed

  by wallievase in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these 2 options are before me right now-.

  1. write a letter to the elders and my family, not da myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time.

  after i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less.... 2. appease my wife.

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  I agree: NOTHING IN WRITING. It's the same as handing your enemy a box of bullets.

  Using scriptures to debate still brings on the "A" label, so if you go that route you must be inordinately calm and not appear to be upset. Just ask her opinion on the discrepancy and see where she takes it.

  UNSEEN made-up illnesses are the best. Migraines bring on great sympathy (perhaps triggered by mold in the kh ductwork? someone's perfume?). Irritable bowel or repeated bouts of diarrhea bring instant sympathy. Depression is a hands-off area for the elders so that works if you are not overly cheerful.

  Best wishes for your fade/withdrawal journey!
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  67 minutes - time to help

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in south africa we have mandela day on the 18th of july - it was his birday and people in sa celebrate it by spending at least 67 minutes helping someone or helping a cause.

  this year, my friends and i are helping out a horse sactuary in desperate need of food for their animals.

  we are ording in hay, shandy chubes and hay presto.

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  Great thread!

  Wouldn't it be cool if we grouped together to assist others in similar ways? Many good-hearted people are duped into the borg because they truly want to help people. We never lose that inner desire to help others, and it's true that there's no better way to make yourself happy than to help others.

  This could actually serve dual purposes:

  1. Providing REAL HELP as opposed to not teaching nonsense to our fellow citizens of the earth (atonement?)
  2. Bringing joy to our own hearts (healing)

  Associating with other helpful people would also provide an open platform to calmly (no wild "apostate" behavior that would allow gb to finger-point) explain how we love to help people but were not "allowed" to do this type of work when we were under the borg's influence. People need their eyes opened and this would be a nice side-effect, perhaps.
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  So many dubs

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last weekend while i was checking out garage sales, i swear i saw about 10 "pairs" of dubs doing their important work.

  they were handing out the pamphlets for the convention.. i've never seen that many in one weekend.

  was there some sort of special, motivational request for doing the preaching work last weekend?.

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  cultBgone

  Seems to have been another one of their "special" campaigns to invite everyone to the District Regional Convention.