i thought this might be worth running again as there are new ones on here that may not have ever known about this.this movie was shown once a year at our hall during the 60's and into the 70's as well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzfu_vcwqso.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odyuwezapme&feature=related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlie8jiihd4&feature=related.
Thanks for positng that. Soooo many years ago and I had forgotten the title but looking at it now, it's like yeaterday.
Sadly, at the time I really liked it - after that alwful movie of life at Bethel that showed how well brothers fold sheets - I thought this was very progressive - how things change.
andersonsinfo is reporting the following news about the "criminal charges and indictment of the watch tower society in australia" by taking some extracts from different parts of jehovah's witness, steven unthank's blog site, http://www.jwnews.net.
please go to the blog to understand the "indictment" and for detailed reading there is much more information found in a:.
pdf version of the 664 page document "the submission 2011" being the:.
I have heard of some elders being "appointed" as the one to look after "orphans and widows" etc. I would assume this is work relevant to 'pastoral care' by other church ministers. Not sure about having a brother/sister come to the house for a bible study though - guess this could be termed a private arrangement. From my knowledge, this is where a lot of the trouble happened/s. Perhaps this is in some way connected to the book study being discontinued - just a guess.
andersonsinfo is reporting the following news about the "criminal charges and indictment of the watch tower society in australia" by taking some extracts from different parts of jehovah's witness, steven unthank's blog site, http://www.jwnews.net.
please go to the blog to understand the "indictment" and for detailed reading there is much more information found in a:.
pdf version of the 664 page document "the submission 2011" being the:.
jwfacts: I remember hearing about the scripture classes but not taking any real notice at the time. Did they give any reason (other than the truth) as to why they stopped doing this? I seem to remember asking, but didn't get that answer.
ok i listened in on the phone last night to the co's talk after the book study.
i am truly starting to realize that otwo is right and it is just making me more depressed and mad.
but my husband still goes and it is helpful to be able to bring things up with him.. so i was half listening when he starts to go on about where the money goes that we put into the world wide work box at the back of the hall.. i started to tune in more and he was going on and on about how the ones in the full time service do not have any money and how what we give is what keeps them going and how we need to give.
Well, my parents didn't leave me any money in their will because I'm no longer a JW - so guess it cuts both ways.
And - in a missionary assignement we had to pay rent to the society for a small 'bush-material' house that was built, paid for and donated by the previous pioneers....no help there!
i have noticed, as many of us on this board have, that the watchtower's tone is getting harsher.. my friend and i have a love of the part of psychology that studies group think.
we noticed something peculiar about how the watchtower seems to approach control of the members.. they seem to subliminally build a villain.
a person that the group is not to be like.. what is happening is not an adjustment of the acceptable part of the group but a refining of the qualities of this villain.. what then naturally happens in the group is an aversion from whatever activities or persons that may be similar to the villain.. in other words, the accepted members' activities will be diametrically apposed to what ever this imaginary villain does.
Governments (or dictators) work in the same way. For example - the regime in North Korea needs a common enemy to remain in control.
Whenever threats rise form inside the ranks Mr Kim fires something... Many regimes work similarly (and not all are dictators).
i ask this in consideration of last week's and this week's congregation bible study which focuses on the responsibilities of christian parents, and husbands.
i also ask this in harmony with itscrap&theyknowit's thread which is a heluva opening post by the way.
i linked it below for those that aren't familiar with it.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/206133/1/why-i-eventually-left.
it'scrap&theyknowit -
Either we were married to the same man or there are more that behave in the same way. The instances are too numerous to write about.
I remember 'the elder/husband' telling me he couldn't take a child to the doors as he wouldn't be able to talk to the householder - so I took all three. It was difficult with two in a pram and one toddler, but I'd get into trouble because elder so-and-so said the kids weren't an example
When they became teenagers it became intollerable. 'We' were the reason he wasn't re appointed as an elder in a new congregation - he didn't have 'freedom of speech' because his kids weren't perfect - actually they were doing nothing wrong at all. Around this time when my daughter was only 14 she visited a deaf sister, who had cancer, every day in hospital - even the day she died.
The husband was just such a needy/greedy person for recognition I guess some of the elders couldn't help using 'position' as a stick and a carrot - power game. In the years after leaving, my son used to joke about Bloody Sunday - we all dreaded Sundays.
He made it to elder again after the kids and I left. I only contacted him once after that to tell him that his son was seriously ill in hospital. He never bothered to call and my son died - not sure how he deals with that, but he's still an elder...guess he has 'freedom of speech' - if they're still buzz-words.
perhaps this is the wrong place to post such a question, but, is anyone aware of any criticism of the new world translation as rendered into other languages, say, spanish, portuguese, french?.
if you open a non-english version of the nwt, you find that they very clearly say you're holding a translation from english into whatever the target language is, only "checking against the hebrew and greek originals".
this is to say, there is a pecking order that begins with the translation from the original languages into english, and then another, from english into all others.
Rice is a synonym for food.
i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.
to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.
just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.
I was raised in 'the truth' so my whole life revolved around it. My kids and I put up with a LOT of nonsense/nastiness/ignorance when I separated from my elder husband - but I hung in there. I have lived and worked in Asian countries noted for corruption and even though I didn't like it and often felt uncomfortable in dealing with stuff their way, I adjusted my thinking in order to live there - it is their system after all. But why should I adjust my thinking towards an organisation that claims to be chosen by God and his representative here on earth? Isn't the responsibility to be honest/ethical theirs?
no you did not read the title wrong.
i was out to eat this weekend with two bethelites.
one gave a talk in my hall and i was invited out to dinner with them by another family in my hall.. as the conversation always turns to "spiritual" things, the subject of education was brought up.
A sister in Australia who is now (I assume is still) in Bethel was looked down on by some members of the congregation for attending uni to study law. She was asked to go to Bethel ( I believe) before she finished her degree. Lovely person - I wonder how she copes there.
it's sad that someone is thinking bout that because of fear of being cast out by family.
i don't know this person, but a mutual aquaintence who knows i was a jw told me.
i'm going to try to relay info to help them.
Lou Bou To - while abortion in China, Korea etc are very common they are usually due to: can get pregnant and have an abortion but don't take the pill because it means you are sleeping around, the woman is carrying a female, the man wouldn't use a condom, this is not the man she has to marry - this was fling (often just before marriage), etc. I think these women do have issues connected to abortions, especially later in life, both emotionally and physically - just from observations and information I have come by. Some of course are performed for the same reason as your daughter and the elders were way out of line with that.
