This story makes me laugh & kinda reminds me of when my primary age daughter came home & went on the computer upstairs to work on a project. What are you doing it on? I called up the stairs......."cute pussies" was the reply.....I ran up those stairs so fast....
Pickler
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Watchtower fail Two older sisters find dating site on line
by solomon intwo of the older sisters in our hall both widows were looking on line for the jw.org site and were talking at the hall about how they have a jw singles.
meetup site on the jw.org web site.
they obviously were on the wrong site but didn't know the difference.
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I asked an elder today...from the horse's mouth!
by Julia Orwell intoday's watchtower made out that the combining of branch offices around the world is a loving provision from jehovah to streamline the production, but i had to ask an elder afterwards, even though i already knew the answer.... "if the wts is selling off bethels and brooklyn property and cutting the publishing costs and commitments, then where is all that money going?".
elder replies, "well the donations are just not coming in anymore and so they have to sell off property to stay afloat.".
gee, i thought if this was jehovah's approved organisation carrying vital truth to the world, then he'd be making sure the donations would be sufficient.
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Pickler
Good question Julia, don't forget they don't have the usual overheads of a publishing company, and their tax free religious status. Most of the halls I see have been around for 20 or 30 years, so they are not buying new premises. Who knows?
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The time is near for my families crucification
by Gojira_101 ingood morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
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Pickler
Hey Gojira, Your grandmother sounds a bit scary to me, reminds me of the old timers in some of the halls I was at. If she is a stickler for honesty she is in for some nasty surprises if she finds out about any of the lies the WTBT$ has told over the years.......if she is able to listen that is. All the best to you & your family. Sounds like you are in for some interesting times.
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How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?
by Julia Orwell ini'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
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Pickler
Hey julia, When I grew up in the 80s it was more than just "discouraged".
When I reached 15 my mother said she could no longer support my worldly desire to stay at school. My dad set up a secret bank account & put cash in it so I could survive. A sister in the congregation a year ahead of me went to 1 term of University, she had to drop out, I don't remember if she was reproved publicly or privately? Anyway, so much pressure was placed that she had to leave.
the brothers from the 80s & 90s are the ones I feel most sad for. A lot of them have had their health ruined by years or cleaning or building work. Their backs are wrecked & I can't even imagine how hard it would be to have to provide for a family without an education.
Years later I went to university, and I now have a degree (yay!).
No wonder they never let us go to uni, too much exposure to real writings, studies, research & thought! How shit does WTS literature look when compared to even first year university texts?
But, I would say I chose my studies based on practicalilties (health science) and I regret that.
I still hope that one day ill get to go & just do what I want to......which would probably be a mix of history, literature, philosophy etc. no practical things allowed!!!!!
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Was it hard for you as a JW to be around girls or boys?
by suavojr inthis picture brings back some memories.... .
what happens when a 14 year old boy gets bombarded about how evil it is to feel a natural attraction towards the opposite sex?.
first - you encounter the robot from lost in space, yelling danger, danger!.
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Pickler
There is so much damage done to us by this kind of JW parenting.
I was never allowed anywhere near boys, but, the second anyone expressed interest my mum started talking marriage. I got the feeling that once I was in puberty I was like a "hot potato" and she was just dying to get me married to the first available man so she would not have the responsibility to make sure nothing ever "happened" to me.
You know, it's all about what's "seen" to be correct, not what actually happens. Elders kids I knew got away with all kinds of misbehavior. whereas a famly like mine, my mum was always striving to be seen as being above reproach, so she was far stricter than other parents. She was so afraid of what others might think of her, she took it all out on us.
Someone in the congregation wrote me letters, and gave me gifts, secretly, he was probably 16. It was a really lovely thing, and it was the first time I had ever received a present.
I can't tell you how awful it was when she found out, she publicly returned all of his gifts IN THE FOYER of the hall, loudly telling him that if he wanted to talk to her daughter he had to talk to her first.
Even typing this now I still feel a hot & prickly feeling of shame/tears/horror, god only knows what it was like for him.
The thing was, we were friends and it was ruined, we never spoke much again ( this was pre Internet & it was easy to lose touch with people ).
As a female you are made to feel so bad/guilty about absolutely anything to do with the opposite sex. I agree that the way they talk to you, you feel so guilty, like you have sinned, when you have done nothing!
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I'm posting here an informative email from STEVEN UNTHANK
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
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Pickler
Most of us on this site know the WTS very well, we were raised by them, and have seen their dark side, how they react when questioned, threatened, challenged.
the working with children check, is a basic safeguard.
I got one for working in a hospital, my husband got one, because he volunteered at a rugby league club, everyone has to have this, it's no big deal. It's basically running a criminal record check.
What is offensive is that the WTS thinks it is above the law of this country.
To those of us who know the WTS, does Steve's story sound plausible? Yes, it does, so I believe it because it ties in with what I know of them.
Well done Steve!
I look forward to following this as it unfolds.
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Are homosexuals born that way? The March 15 Watchtower seems to say so.
by matt2414 in15 one brother who was raised in a christian household wrote that for as long as he could remember, he struggled with homosexual tendencies.
he said: i always felt awkward.
it seemed that i didnt fit in anywhere.
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I am happy for anyone who finds love, no matter who with, who cares?
There is something really wrong with being overly concerned with other people's sex lives.
Really, like psychopath wrong, it's just not normal to even care what others do.
I spent so many years telling my kids it's OK if you are gay, my son said "Mum, are you disappointed I'm not gay?" Well...?
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I'm new, please come and meet me!
by Julia Orwell inlong time lurker, first time poster.
i'm really glad i can join your community because i've been in the wts for the last 14 years and now i'm on my way out and it's great to meet like-minded people!.
about me: i started learning jw ways when i was in my teens.
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Pickler
Welcome Julia, I'm Aussie too, from Sydney.
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Since You Were In A Cult Do You Consider Yourself Still Dysfunctional?
by minimus inyes, i said "still"..
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Pickler
Yes I'm dysfunctional, but it's pretty well hidden - most people would never tell from my outside appearance how deeply messed up I am. I always felt like a naturally worldly person stuck in the religion. Now I'm out, I know I'm different from most non JWs.
Its Hard to trust people, make friends, or keep friends. I let people go, don't know how to handle any kind of conflict. Worry about things a lot.
I'm in the middle of making a huge mess of my own life at the moment, but, I know I'm a good parent, so that's something.
im sorry Tik, message me if you want a friend to chat or whine to!
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I Got disfellowshiped..wana die!
by Chichi89 ini jus got dissfellowshiped at th last week..i feel like dying..i attended th meetings yesterday and ita ws jus horrible..came back home in tears....... people i used to cal my friends nw cant look me in the eye..so heartbroken confused and giving up on life !.
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Pickler
Chichi, it may not seem it, it you have a chance to create a new, better life. One where you are free to make real friends, find love, have a career, a family. This is just a "bump" in your road, though it is very tough at the time, everyone on this site is cheering for you.
Im sorry this has happened to you.
Smile, and get out there, look around ..... Who knows what you'll find.....