Posts by Rattigan350

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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service

by JimmyPage in

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http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.

Rattigan350

If that 78 year old woman was my mother......oh baby.

My mother got bit by my pups, her fault for letting it happen.

What is sad about this story and the comments is that people don't know how to handle dogs. People are afraid of dogs. That is the worst thing to be. My dogs won't hurt me because they are afraid of me and know that I am not afraid of them, and I won't be afraid of anyone else's either. If your hand is firmly around the dog's windpipe, they won't do damage. Or if your boot is firmly implanted in their heads, they won't do damage.

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Gentile Times ? When ?

by *lost* in

if christians are the gentiles .... ............many nations of man.

god's earthly children shepherded by gods heavenly kingdom.

through jesus the son via the bible inspired to men by the power of holy spirit, to become workers/slaves of god on earth to do the sowing/planting, growing on the crop ready for the master to harvest / see the produce of the great work effort ?

Rattigan350

Gentile Times Reconsidered? Are you serious. He needs to reconsider it.

1 Samuel 7

I shall certainly raise up your seed after you, which will come out of your inward parts; and I shall indeed firmly establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one that will build a house for my name, and I shall certainly establish the throne of his kingdom firmly to time indefinite. 14 I myself shall become his father, and he himself will become my son. When he does wrong, I will also reprove him with the rod of men and with the strokes of the sons of Adam. 15 As for my loving-kindness, it will not depart from him the way I removed it from Saul, whom I removed on account of you. 16 And your house and your kingdom will certainly be steadfast to time indefinite before you; your very throne will become one firmly established to time indefinite.”’”

That is a prophesy leading to Christ, starting with Solomon, his descendants were sitting on Jehovah's throne, and one day Jesus would be sitting on Jehovah's throne. But from David, time went by and Jesus never sat on a throne. Infact Jehoiakim became a vassal king subject to Egypt and Babylon and the the kingdom fully fell. It appears that the throne was not firmly established. It seemed as if that prophesy failed; or did it?

No, it didnt' fail, Jehovah just paused it for 7 times or 2520 years and then Jesus was installed as king, not in old Jerusalem which was rejected, but in new Jerusalem which is heavenly.

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STAY AWAY FROM MY KINDGOM HALL," LORD'S EVENING MEAL" INVITATIONS REVOKED!!!!!

by AuntConnie in

i am very angry, pent-up rage call it!

so you will understand why and with great ease this subject is able to flow off my tongue onto the keyboard, because this time of the year is worse than your christmas time jitters!

anxiety, stress, compulsive babbling nuts are invading our service groups!

Rattigan350

Who else were you expecting to show, when this religion is proselytizing and selling the end of the world is coming soon.

That's the purpose of religion. In fact what would any other purpose be? What good is God without some sort of change in the future.

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Marry in the Lord

by Rattigan350 in

they do not do a good job of exploring why different people stop going to the meetings and make any improvements.. this is a quote from another topic.

it reminds me of the may 15 2012 study article about marry only in the lord, p 4 para7.

they are not trying to improve their product (the people).

Rattigan350

Yes, arranged marriages. While the parents don't specifically choose the mates. The parents choose the mates by limiting them to the congregation or surrounding ones and introducing and limiting and chaparoning.

How many miserable marriages there are in the organization?!

People believing that if they just do the meetings, field service, family study or worship, they will be happy. Well, my car's engine is happy if I just put gas and oil into it too.

But no happiness outside of that.

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Are the Witnesses Really Losing Their Young People?

by What Now? in

that article about jehovah's witnesses having the lowest retention rate for born ins keeps popping up every now again ... i'm just curious if any of you have noticed that this is actually the case.

in the congregation that i grew up in, i'm going to say that 95% of the young people in their teens to mid twenties are either regular pioneering, regular auxiliary pioneering, serving in foreign language congregations or where the need is greater.

both of my younger sisters are regular pioneers - and the young people in their hall even organize 8 pm to midnight service on friday nights of their own accord.

Rattigan350

When I was growing up in the 80s there was a family of 6 kids, zealous parents. All but 2 are out. The 2 that are in married bad and got divorces.

When you speak about youth leaving, also consider that many may be getting married to get away from the parents and then they leave.

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Scary moment: Watchtower Study conductor got mad about answer

by Gorbatchov in

today we had a bla bla bla watchtower article: warnings for technology, money and pride.

a repreat of a repreat of a repreat.. but now it comes:.

one of the last summary questions one of the local simple brothers gave the answer that we have to take care for technology.

Rattigan350

Are they gearing up for advertising space in the mags..

Product placements in the magazine pictures and assemblies.

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Elders! Elders everywhere!

by Julia Orwell in

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an elder came around this morning at 9am to ask if my husband wanted to come with him on a bible study.

my husband nipped from the bathroom to the bedroom in his undies to get dressed, while i talked to the elder!

the elder talked about how he just happened to think my husband might be free this morning, and just happened to get a call from someone wanting a bible study, and then he said to me, "why don't you come visit my house some time?

Rattigan350

Back when I was single, I used to stop, unannounced and visit elders from my congregation and others.

Since getting married, I don't see the point.

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Circuit Oversears treated like gods...did this happen in your Hall!!!

by Witness 007 in

brothers would full on laugh at the c.o's lame jokes.

fight over who gets him for dinner where no expense would be speared..."oh they dont eat flour, sugars or milk products...".

Rattigan350

My wife and I took a CO and his wife out to dinner to Japanese restaurant, which they suggested. When looked at the menu, I got something cheap.

When the bill came, I made them pay for their own. They are supposed to be examples in simple cheap living, but the examples never are.

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NEW BLOOD CARD DIRECTIVE...

by SkyGreen in

the husband just gave me the new march km (im using it folded up as a coaster at the moment) and a new "blood card" to complete, along with a copy of a set of instructions for how to fill it out and a letter from wts to every baptised publisher.

i said to him "i wont be needing that" and gave it back to him, and he just said, well just throw it out then - no overreaction yay :o) without telling him, about a month ago, (i tore up my existing no blood directive.

our kids have never carried around "identity cards" we were never that diligent about it).

Rattigan350

This topic's responses are not making sense.

Brainmelt said:

I've been wondering if its worthwhile carrying some sort of anti-blood directive card with me, something with my signature on that would express my wishes that I'd like to be given a blood transfusion in an emergency situation just in case I end up unconscious with my parents or the HLC trying to convince the docs to let me die.

I thought the issue was that avoiding blood transfusions or not, is not to be a religious issue. The issue is not and has never been "Hey give me a transfusion because they are great." Which the above quote indicates. Someone else's blood is still bad medicine. The doctors should be the ones to make the call, not anti-noblood theolgy.

No one in their right mind actualy wants their children to die and you may be able to get him to do some proper research on it all.

JWs don't want their children to die and refusing blood is not wanting or allowing them to die. The issue here is that non-baptized minors or adults are not under any religious directive and no one should be pressuring them to refuse or accept blood.

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Seven Thousand Year Creative Day still being taught (as of 2005)

by VM44 in

here is a photo of a gilead instructor (br.

liverance) teaching a class on chronology.. the photo appears in a blog entry dated 5-21-2005.. note the "6,000" and "1,000" periods in the timeline drawn on the whiteboard.. i thought the 7,000 year creative day was no longer taught, but apparently it still is at gilead, at least in the year 2005.. (picture cannot be embedded here for some reason, so here is the link to it).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ydnht0xya-4/sbukuolyzei/aaaaaaaaacs/t-rgxaammbg/s1600-h/chronology+%28br.+liverance%29.jpg.

Rattigan350

"6000 years+1000 year reign of Christ would seal the deal on a 7000 year "creative day.""

That makes sense, However the flaw resides thinking that Jehovah started a clock at Eve's creation, the end of the 6th creative day, to start the 6000 years of man's government, then 1000 years of Christ's rule.

That was before the sin. There was no need for man vs Christ's rule.

It would make more sense to start the 6000 year clock at the first sin. That is unknown.

But as they say that it is to determine the issue of whether mankind can rule himself. That's not the issue that started at the sin and why does he need 6000 years for that?