Posts by Trotafox

Hey, Amazing: I missed this post when it went by the first time. You are a very nice looking man. I have always loved your posts. Hope you're feeling better these days.

Trot

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Confused

by AlphaPlus in

this is gonna take a while so bear with me .... i dunno where to start.

well i'm still a jw, still going to meetings etc although you do feel pretty bad sitting there knowing you'd like to be any place else.

like i've read from so many of you i've been the perfect jw kid excellent meeting attendence, good field service blah blah all that crap.

Trotafox

Hi, AlphaPlus: I'm so glad you decided to post. You will receive a great deal of support here and won't feel like you're all alone in your trials.

Do what you feel you want to do in your heart but my advice is that you must take action and put together a plan. When you do, you will be proactive and not reactive. Make new friends as quickly as possible. That will ease the situation somewhat. Start putting together a plan for possibly moving out if you have to. You may not have to depending on the reaction of your grandparents. Then, and only when those pieces are in place, be honest with your grandparents. You will know where to go to from there. If you don't get baptized, you won't get involved in the DFng or DAng process. There probably will be some flak, however, from your JW friends and most probably you will be considered bad association. They may or may not react. Others on this board can give a better opinion on that scenario.

When you start taking action, you will feel better. You can always talk to us for support and, if you make an effort to make friends outside the congregation, you will have someone to at least socialize with. However, they will not be able to relate to the JW experience so be prepared for that. I know I wasn't and it was very frustrating for me to try to get them to understand. I post that part of my frustration on this board and simply keep my other social life on a laid back friendly basis rather than spiritual. The spiritual aspect of my life I work out here and in private. This takes time and it's okay to take a spiritual break, as long as you do not leave God out of your life entirely. Healing and trusting again will take time. God knows this. There will be time for you to recover spiritually and by all means get baptized in the appropriate way and not through the Borg. I would not want to discourage anyone from dedicating their lives to Jesus.

And by the way, there are plenty of nice young ones out there to associate with. Just continue to use your bible-trained conscience, however, and don't get involved with kids who are involved in things that you know go against God's laws. Get involved with more Christian friends. There are some on this board who will disagree with that but, IMHO, I can see no good coming from getting involved with the wrong crowd.

Graduating when you were 15???? That says something right there.

Hang in there and use that sharp noddle you got. {{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Trot

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An Introduction

by Granny Linda in

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hello.. after lurking around for some time decided to join.

i've been df for 32 years...and glad for it.. i'd pretty much laid the jw stuff to rest until last year when my older sister, after years of absence from my life, made comment to me about "struggling with the truth.

" i took it upon myself to begin some research and have been "hooked" on these type forums since.

Trotafox

Welcome, Granny. ((((hugs))))

I'm one of the "Over 40" crowd, too. Look forward to your posts. OMG....5th generation??? Sick is right.

Trot

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what flavour are you? :p

by FreeRangeChicken in

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hmmm... tastes like chicken.. .

am i chicken?

am i a frog?

Trotafox

Hmmm Lemon Flavoured.

I am bitter and twisted. Expect from me acerbic humour and sharp commentary. While I may seem nasty at first, I'm actually quite good company if I like you, so long as you don't mind a bit of cutting to the chase.

Who, little ole me????

Trot

P.S. How did I get this full all in a quote? I give up.

Edited by - Trotafox on 26 July 2002 1:16:30

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My uncle was found DEAD this morning

by Fire Dragon in

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my jw dad called me this morning and told me that he found my jw uncle dead, face-down on the floor in his home.

he's taking it hard.

i was shocked to hear him say that he wanted me to be with the family.

Trotafox

So very sorry to hear this, Fire Dragon. Prayers are with you.

Trot

Edited for bad typing

Edited by - Trotafox on 26 July 2002 0:41:47

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Where are you ?

by sunshineToo in

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in which part of the planet are you?

i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?

Trotafox

Ft. Lauderdale, Florida (where the boy's aren't).........

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Hello I'm new here...

by Lapuce in

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i really love this web site and yes i'm a jw still, have been for 8 years now, i'm 35 and am married to a jw and have two boys one is 1-1/2 and the other 5. for about 2 to 3 years now i'm starting to see that its not really the truth.

the brothers, sisters and elders dont really care about anyone, the watchtower is ruining my life, i have been depressed for awhile now and i'm on anti depressants as i started feeling suicidal as i'll never be good enough as i hate meetings, i hate going door to door, and it doesn't make any sense that jehovah will destroy good people just because they don't follow its doctrins.

its like saving to your son if you don't do what i tell you i will kill you.

Trotafox

Welcome. Lapuce. We've been there and look forward to your story.

Trot

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boomboom car stereos...

by DanTheMan in

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i live in klumbus ohio, in a neighborhood that ain't da hood but it ain't the 'burbs either.. it seems that if you are a male under 25 in my area and you don't have a 10,000 watt car stereo that shakes the whole neighborhood, well, you're nothing.. i don't get hip-hop culture.

i think that it is a screaming commentary on the cultural rot in the usa.. could someone comfort me or help explain the appeal of this pervasive sub-culture?

the depravity of it all makes me feel so hopeless sometimes.. maybe i'm a little too narrowly caucasian in my outlook.

Trotafox

Oh, I am so-o-o-o glad I'm not alone.

I had to sell a condo after 3 years of listening to that hip-hop rap crap coming up from the downstairs apartment. In the middle of the night. Full blast. The guy had 2 band-size speakers in his bedroom (which was under my bedroom) and partied all night. He also had a police band radio, I swear, because everytime I called the police, he would turn them off just before they got there. He was the brother of the owner (who left for places unknown) and not a renter. The association couldn't (or wouldn't do anything about him). The other neighbors were too afraid of him to do anything. So after 3 years of fighting with him (and no sleep), I sold the condo and lost my shirt. Turned out he has a rap sheet (so fitting) a mile long. I checked at the County Sheriff's office. A gang member. Now I live in an over 55 community and my neighbors may be old but they are quiet! (although I can still hear the boom-booms from 3 blocks away on a major street).

I had a car pull up to me once which I felt a long, long time before he got to the light. My heart was even vibrating. I had to put my hand over my chest. There was absolutely no music; only a vibrating boom-boom. Ridiculous. Are there any cops on this Board? If so, tell me WHY CAN'T THEY OUTLAW THESE THINGS.

Now I know a lot of people reading this board probably like Rap but IMHO.....it stinks! As far as I'm concerned, it ruined the music industry when it came out and I wish it would die a very fast death!

Trot

Edited by - Trotafox on 25 July 2002 0:6:10

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Ray Franz has anyone read Crisi of Conscience?

by 67mustang in

i am interested in ray franz.

can anybody comment on him?

i've heard rumors, but partial ones from jw's.

Trotafox

I just did a search for "Ray Franz" and "Crisis of Conscience". There's enough there to keep you reading for a while. Yes I have read both CofC and "In Search of Christian Freedom". You should definitely read them. He is an ex-Governing Body member and you will learn what goes on behind the closed doors.

Trot