Posts by Saintbertholdt

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Saintbertholdt

Hi Millie,

When I first began participating on this site, I realized there is a formula that is supposed to be followed of leaving, poking fun at the religion, look to science and lastly, become an atheist.

Not at all Millie...do your own thang girl. Oh you answered that already with "I want to have my own experience - something the JWs do not allow."

Well yes do what you think is the best and you definitely don't have to become an atheist. Those like me that arrived at the realization of atheism, got there through our own catharsis. The best advice I saw online regarding the leaving process was (I am paraphrasing): Take some time off after you leave the organization. God understands perfectly. Then when you are good and ready, then start looking for that which (or for whom) you seek.

I do wish there were more opportunities for friendly discussions about the topic but the folks here that believe in God are pretty quiet and the atheists are as zealous as the JWs.

It is true many atheists are very zealous but those enthusiastic objections only really came to the fore after a group of religious folks decided to drive airplanes filled with fare paying passengers into some tall buildings. It dawned upon atheists that these people meant business and if religion went unchecked, well heck maybe we'd all be back herding goats and stoning rape victims in no time at all. Since then religion has become somewhat of a sticky topic for atheists where before they would have shrugged and returned to their crossword puzzle.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

Saintbertholdt

I am an atheist however I cannot positively say that God does not exist.

However if she does exist, she's very different from the stories and myths we've constructed.

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Offended by JW letter targeting obituaries

by betterdaze in

local father offended by jehovah's witness letter, claims its writer is targeting obituariesjacksonville, fla. a local father who wishes to remain anonymous sent action news jax a copy of a letter sent to his family's church.. the letter read in part: "sorry about your loss.

i read about it from the obituary.

jehovahs witness literature was attached to the letter.. in a time when a family is grieving they need to be surrounded by family and friends.

Saintbertholdt

“In a time when a family is grieving they need to be surrounded by family and friends. That's not a time for a person to proselytize their views,” the father said.

Ooh, ooh I've done that. And now I feel sad.

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Article: Zambia: Jehovah's Witnesses Deserve Pat On the Back

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://allafrica.com/stories/201508310529.html.

zambia: jehovah's witnesses deserve pat on the back .

times of zambia, august 28, 2015. by alfred mlenga.

Saintbertholdt

Critics may be quick to jump to the unfair if not irrational conclusion that Witnesses are probably doing this to swell their ranks in the face of increased competition from other religious organizations.

I fully agree with this statement...Please continue.

But I am focusing on the subject of kingdom halls because it seems to a new development by the Witnesses who were seen as trouble or rubble-rousers by the colonialists.

Alfred, Alfred, Alfred...A political party leader in Zambia just asked the for the Watchtower organization to be banned. So its not just the imperialist swines that do this you know.

"National Revolution Party leader Cosmo Mumba has appealed to the Register of Societies to force Jehovah Witnesses to start singing the national anthem and participate in national elections or be banned." - Lusaka times June 4, 2015 (courtesy Orphancrow)

I had an uncle, a staunch Witness, who would not allow anyone to use the sign of the Cross

Easily explained, Jehovah's Witnesses are actually spiritual vampires. They suck the marrow, spontaneity and life out of new converts.

In conclusion Alfred, I guess you're right, they're clean and tidy.

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E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

by DwainBowman in

i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

here is the email: .

---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

Saintbertholdt

Hi Millie,

"At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. ALL OF US MUST BE READY TO OBEY ANY INSTRUCTIONS WE MAY RECEIVE, WHETHER THESE APPEAR SOUND FROM A STRATEGIC OR HUMAN STANDPOINT OR NOT. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith."

The Governing body knew very well...

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Pope praises the Wild Beast (UN)

by Quarterback in

the pope stated at his un address that, "if it wasn't for the un's work on the world's conflicts, the world would be alot worse".

i just wonder how that statement will be taken in jw land.

Saintbertholdt

Religion and Politics, should they mix?

I thought that was what a Jehovist theocracy meant: A one party state which you had to worship.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

Saintbertholdt

The stress now is on getting as many people in the truth as possible before the end!

The end for whom?

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How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

by LevelThePlayingField in

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i keep hearing this in threads.....

Saintbertholdt

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How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

by LevelThePlayingField in

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i keep hearing this in threads.....

Saintbertholdt

Its always Aliens.

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How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

by LevelThePlayingField in

jw
friends

i keep hearing this in threads.....

Saintbertholdt

Speeches by federal employees are in the public domain...Fair use does not allow [reproduction] in whole without the express permission

It all sounds reasonable. In any case the Watchtower did not decide to pursue the counter claims. One was done by Dustin [LuciousVBogeyman] and he actually made a video of him doing the counter claim.The wtbts of Pennsylvania probably felt it was not worth pursuing as they had accomplished the removal of most of the videos in any case.