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  Withdrawing community support in the congs

  by purrpurr in

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  i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

  counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

  if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

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  So if they don't help people spiritually, emotionally or practically like a clergyman would, what is their function!

  They like the label of being called an "Elder" not that they have a "Clergy Class" of course
  
  
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  JW's - Are you in a "THEOCRATIC arrangement" or an AUTOCRATIC one?

  by The Fall Guy in

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  i now know which system i was under!.

  theocratic/theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of god or a god.

  (oxford dictionary).

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  JW's - Are you in a "THEOCRATIC arrangement" or an AUTOCRATIC one?

  Or are you subjects of a dictatorship ? Do the rank and file Jw`s have a say in the belief system of the religion ?

  Or are they dictated to as to what they are to believe.

  If they disagree with some belief are they given a hearing ear ? or not.

  No they are told to OBEY what the G.B.of J.W.`s say or face the consequences .

  If they persevere in challenging a belief held by the G.B.of Jehovah`s Witnesses they will be shunned and dis-fellowshiped from the congregation.

  So my point is J.W.`s are under a totalitarian rule ,not theocratic and not autocratic.but Totalitarian .
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  Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

  by FedUpJW in

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  well i got to waste another day.

  for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

  they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

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  FedUpJW

  thanks for the post

  Theme was Don't Give Up In Fulfilling The Law of Christ.

  Jesus Christ fully supports his "father" Jehovah who was a genocidal, homicidal maniac who took delight in shedding the blood of millions of humans and animals as portrayed in his Holy Written Word the Bible .NWT. of the Hebrew Scriptures / Old Testament.

  And is Jesus Christ really any different ? despite what many claim ?

  Jesus came not to bring peace but to bring a sword to many. ( paraphrased }

  Jesus would pit father against mother child against parents etc.etc.( paraphrased )

  Jesus as the newly enthroned King in the Heavens is going to destroy Billions at Armageddon.

  And when the thousand years are ended Jehovah with the approval of Jesus Christ are going to slaughter millions more according to the book of Revelation.Rev.20 .7-9 .

  they both seem to have a lust for blood

  
  
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  I sometimes wonder what the world would be like if "Religion" had never reared it`s head.?

  by smiddy3 in

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  can you imagine what the world of mankind would be like if their was never any concept of a god or religious beliefs ?.

  for the love of me i can`t ,maybe i don`t have an imaginative mind equipped well enough to do so .. how about you guys ?

  any takers ?.

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  Thank you for all your comments when i reflect on the subject I suppose it was a rather silly topic because while Religion can be divisive ,destructive ,alienate people ,so does race / colour ,politics ,and nationalism .

  None of which are going away anytime soon if ever.

  And while Jesus may have" preached love" for neighbor on the one hand he also said he would" not put peace on the earth but a sword"

  And Jesus was fully behind his God Jehovah who taught his followers to commit genocide on their neighbors in the O.T.
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  Watchtower growth ?

  by pepperheart in

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  in perth western australia the watchtower have sold a kingom hall to hindus for $2 million aust dollars and they have a second one up for sale in the same area embleton .

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  Aren`t the Organization of Jehovah`s Witnesses supporting "Babylon the Great" both financially and materially with this sale ?

  Yet if a rank & file member of J.W.`s attends any other than their own religious building for any reason he/she could be disfellowshiped or at best counselled for doing so.

  Hypocrites !
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  Anti-JW movie on Netflix?

  by Ray Frankz in

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  i'm watching the new netflix movie "come sunday".

  it's one more film about a person who has turning point in life that demands the person to reevaluate his own faith and belief system.

  in this case, the man is a petencostal bishop that gets very famous and has a big church preaching about salvation to heaven and punishment in hell.

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  I think we may be surprised as to how many would watch such a movie or series .The younger generation of J.W.`s are not as indoctrinated as many think .

  From my experience and talking to my sons many ,and I mean many of the young, live double lives , pleasing their families putting in appearances at meetings even doing token field service etc, however not fully committed .

  They watch movies whether they be R or X rated without their parents knowledge ,go to disco`s and night clubs without their parents knowledge and get pissed on Alcohol to excess all behind their parents back and front up on Sundays at the meetings and may even comment .

  So don`t under-estimate the youth in the J.W.religion ,they are a ticking time bomb for the religion.

  They do what they want to do and won`t be dictated to by anybody ,G.B.,Elders , or parents .

  Jehovah ,Christ Jesus don`t even come into the equation .
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  You have to smile at the irony of this article!!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  awake 22nd april 1970 p. 8 changes that disturb people .

  "why is there this decline in religion?

  …..millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong....a businessman in medellín, colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many......"just ten years ago we catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this.

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  Jehovah`s Witnesses have a real problem with "Foot in Mouth Disease"

  What we say and print in our publications doesn`t apply to us it only applies to Christendoms Religions.

  Luke 6:42 ....".Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye"........
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  Do any of the 144,000 in heaven take part in the destruction at Armageddon?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  i wondered about that when i heard garret loesch state that shortly before the tribulation the governing body would be taken up.

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  if this is the case, it seems like garret and the other seven would be there just in time to help out in the killing of billions.. i thought they used to say that some would survive armageddon before they were taken up..

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  What they said yesterday is not what they will say today and certainly won`t be the same as what they will say tomorrow
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  I sometimes wonder what the world would be like if "Religion" had never reared it`s head.?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can you imagine what the world of mankind would be like if their was never any concept of a god or religious beliefs ?.

  for the love of me i can`t ,maybe i don`t have an imaginative mind equipped well enough to do so .. how about you guys ?

  any takers ?.

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  Can you imagine what the world of mankind would be like if their was never any concept of a GOD or religious beliefs ?

  For the love of me I can`t ,maybe I don`t have an imaginative mind equipped well enough to do so .

  how about you guys ? any takers ?

  Acknowledging of course that in the real world today their are two sides to the coin of "Religion" it has it`s bad side and it also has it`s good side.

  That`s beside the point for this discussion if it even eventuates ?
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  Knorr on 1914: "I don't know." - Mouthy Alert!

  by compound complex in

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  dear mouthy and other denounced ones,.

  you may find this double standard $%^@#@*&!

  "in 1975, knorr made a remarkable and candid statement to the governing body, which confirmed his growing disillusionment until his death two years later: ["]'"there are some things i know --- i know that jehovah is god, that christ jesus is his son, that he gave his life as a ransom for us, that there is a resurrection.

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  I personally cannot think of a single other religion that has totally changed (and largely negated their old) doctrines every 25 years throughout their history the way the Watchtower Society has.

  This is a tacit admission that things were so wrong that they needed periodic major overhauls, and there is no sign that the overhaul process is stabilizing.

  Hence the need to throw away all the old literature.

  You were so right james_ woods never a truer word was spoken