Posts by smiddy3

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Australia's Religious Discrimination Act.

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

this is an interesting and intriguing new law (or, it will be if enacted in its present form).. quote: "the proposed new religious discrimination act is intended to prevent a person from being discriminated against on the basis of their religion.".

fair enough, but to get it through the house of representatives last night, the government accepted some changes.. the first draft (discussed last night) had a clause that may have impacted the rights of some gay and/or trans-sexual students at religious schools by allowing a religious school to expel such a student.

last night the government was forced to accept changes that removed that possibility.

smiddy3

FTS

I understood the issue concerned children, enrolled in a religious school from an early age, reaching (puberty??) and finding they were same sex attracted or transexual and doing or saying something that would lead the school authorities to believe they were gay or transexual, who then expelled them from the school.

I concur with what you are saying ,FTS and I think rather than a government getting involved in this issue ,the religious institution in question should be able to have a frank discussion with the child and his/her parents and come to an amiable solution for both sides pointing out their core values.

Personally I have no issue with gay / transexual people .I have a gay BIL and nephew who are both gay and we get along just fine no problems ,I enjoy their company just as much as I enjoy anybody else`s company.

Just to set the record straight.

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Australia's Religious Discrimination Act.

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

this is an interesting and intriguing new law (or, it will be if enacted in its present form).. quote: "the proposed new religious discrimination act is intended to prevent a person from being discriminated against on the basis of their religion.".

fair enough, but to get it through the house of representatives last night, the government accepted some changes.. the first draft (discussed last night) had a clause that may have impacted the rights of some gay and/or trans-sexual students at religious schools by allowing a religious school to expel such a student.

last night the government was forced to accept changes that removed that possibility.

smiddy3

In my mind if that law had passed,it would have discriminated against any organization Christian or otherwise to enforce rules for entry into their establishments.

It would have set a bad precedent that any organization Christian or otherwise had rules of entry and some smart ass would object to.

I`m not religious now by any means but I agree that a Christian institution has the right to say who can and who cannot be a part of it.

There are plenty of other options they can choose to go to rather than force your will on an institution to change its policy. IMHO

What`s your view? I`d be interested ?

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JW’s and Charity Organizations

by longgone in

i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?

i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.

including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.

smiddy3

I have been in 7 congregations in my 32 years as an active JW in 3 States of Australia and I have never seen or heard from the Society as they used to be called, any assistance monetary or otherwise from the JW religion to any needy person ,widow or orphans that needed help or assistance .

The onus was always put back on the individual members of the congregations to provide any assistance needed.

Recently, when many old time workers / members were laid off ,they were just sent back to neighboring congregations who were to provide for their needs,with no assistance from the GB/JW religion.

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Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk

by FFGhost in

did anybody else catch it?.

he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.

"similar"?.

smiddy3

And where in the world did this gem come from ? Out of his butt? They, the GB , have probably been pondering questions that XJW`s raise about the resurrection ,and this is the best answer they can come up with .

I`m sure some little old sister / brother will be thrilled with this new light ?

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AM III off topic remarks online @ jw.org

by Gorb in

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friends

am iiii off topic remarks at the anual meeting, are online at broadcasting.. he says in the early 70s he did not believe the end was near, and told his sons not to believe jw's who stating the end is near because the system could go on to 2020.. g..

smiddy3

Would it surprise anyone on this forum if AM 111 played loose with the truth ?

The WT/JW religion revise their history all the time so it shouldn`t surprise us that a GB member can do so ?

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Gossip

by Rattigan350 in

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friends

question for former elders:.

how much of your time was spent quelling gossip and rumors floating around.

i'm not talking about csa type stuff, just regular insignficant stuff that people occupied their time over..

smiddy3

In my experience Elders wives were the principle gossip makers in a congregation where a lot of it started.

In my 32 years as an active JW I attended 6 different congregations and was a friend of a few Elders and their wives,

Nudge ,nudge ,wink wink.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and logical fallacies

by Vanderhoven7 in

giles gray writes.

here is a brief list of the most common arguments (or statements used in the construction of their arguments) jehovah’s witnesses make that are fallacious in nature:-.

--we are the true religion because we only teach what is written in the bible.

smiddy3

-We are the true religion because we only teach what is written in the bible

Do they teach that the God of the Bible is a genocidal , homicidal ,maniac , guilty of crimes against humanity , sanctioning slavery ,women as spoils of war , that children women and old men are worthy of death and not to feel sorry for them ?

That according to the Bible, God is responsible for millions if not billions of deaths over the duration of time that the Bible spans.

Whereas I think the Bible only accounts Satan as being responsible for about only 10 people`s death.

And Jesus Christ stands firmly behind and in support of God his father.

Read the Bible without pre-conceived religious ideas and beliefs.

c

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New Book - The Reluctant Prostate

by Simon in

hey everyone, i'm writing a new book.. it's the entirely fictional story about a character called "roy devons", an obese clown who was kicked out of clown college because he couldn't stop touching himself.

he launches his own youtube channel where he tells the world how wrong and unfunny clowns really are.

the world already knows this, and never really had much todo with clowns anyway, although some other ex-clowns felt like they needed to be reminded regularly of their past lives.. he hits upon the idea of asking for donations to support efforts to convince ex-clowns to get their prostates checked.

smiddy3

That was funny Simon ,have a beer or two on me.

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Watchtower online religion.

by asp59 in

should we refer watchtower as to a online religion now?

i mean we could discuss if they ever return to kingdom hall's in the future.

if most of them haven't been sold.

smiddy3

Sooner or later they will start to sell KH`s there is no rush .They made Millions of dollars $$$$$$ when the sold properties in Brooklyn NY ,and if every JW only donated one Dollar a week now they would have over 8 Million dollar $$$$$$ net every week .

That`s the reality ,there is no hurry.

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"A thousand years as one day"

by Awakened07 in

the scripture saying: "...one day is with the lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

" (2. peter 3:8) is often used both by jehovah's witnesses and others, to show that a day can literally mean a thousand years in the eyes of god.

this is then used especially for the creation story, and for the fall of adam and eve.

smiddy3

Day and night is only relative to the Earth because a point on it turns on it`s axis facing too the sun and away from it . There is no night and day in the Universe ,just as there is no up or down ,only out their .