many,many years ago i went into a florist shop and ordered a wreath and a sympathy card to be delivered to my home .the sales lady looked at me and saw that i wasn`t very old and offered her condolences to me .. i apologised to her and said oh no ,nobody`s died ,it`s just that my wife has been going off lately about her turning fourty ,so i thought i would commiserate with her by doing this.. on the other hand when i turned fourty i went out and bought myself a pair of ice skates ..
Many,many years ago I went into a florist shop and ordered a wreath and a Sympathy card to be delivered to my home .The sales lady looked at me and saw that I wasn`t very old and offered her condolences to me .
I apologised to her and said Oh no ,nobody`s died ,it`s just that my wife has been going off lately about her turning fourty ,so I thought I would commiserate with her by doing this.
On the other hand when I turned fourty I went out and bought myself a pair of Ice Skates .
being raised a dub i never voted.
i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.
i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.
Well my thoughts on the matter is that fundamentalist Christians take the scriptures literally about GOD turning his attention back to the Jews and redeeming them . Where it refers to spiritual Israel they apply it to literal/physical Israel?
I think they got blown away by the Jews returning to Israel in 1948 and getting established as a State.And they believe it`s fulfilment of Bible prophecy ? Remember the Zionist movement ?
And the early Watchtower was "Zions Watchtower and Herald of Christs Presence"
Then again what do I know ?
just my 2 cents worth.
it started off as "dear friend ,as one of your neighbours" , however the postmark on the letter was from 2 townships away ?
a good twenty minute car drive away .a minor point i know.
it goes on about how she is concerned about the effects that current events are having on the welfare of the community and the corona-virus has prevented her from discussing the issues personally with me.. she then goes on to state and quote jeremiah 29:11 and then goes on to say "for more information about this promise and other questions like :.
I didn`t realise how much time has gone by since posting this OP
And after much consideration I do believe it would be a waste of time expecting the Elders to pass on a letter meant for her.
I`m positive they would open the letter themselves and not pass it on ,rationalising they would be protecting her interests.
Thanks for your comments and feedback.
jwfacts does make a valid point ,however I cant send that to her as she didn`t give me an option to connect with her personally.
i wonder if it will be published ?
i asked when would those responsible name and shame those institutions that have refused to join the redress scheme and if it was a one off event or are they going to continue to do so.. that was the gist of the message .it was to the herald sun newspaper printed in victoria and distributed nation wide.australia.their are about 5 institutions that have refused to sign up ,4 of them are very small institutions and the jehovah`s witnesses are by far the largest body refusing to join.. those of you in australia keep your eyes peeled to the herald sun to see if it gets published or not..
I`ll do what I can Phizzy .
as someone who left in 1991 aged 21, one of my overriding memories of growing up in the watchtower was being able to "prove" the end times by referencing 1914.. major change in 95 then again after that.
if i'm being honest i could not even tell you now what the current teaching is.. for those who still attend the meetings, is it still openly spoken about?
i genuinely curious as i wonder if the teaching will be altogher dropped eventually, and one of the easiest ways to achieve that is to stop speaking about it.
1914 was 106 years ago when C.T.Russell believed the end would happen and it didn`t and the generation that would not pass away did in fact pass away.
However Jehovah`s Witnesses twist jesus words to mean "these generations " and not what he actually said "this generation"
i understand it’s a cult.
but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??
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I would also contend that many reasonably intelligent people remain JW`s is simply because of pride .With the time and effort ,money invested in the religion over many years it can be hard to admit you have been fooled into believing something that is not true. So you cling onto it as long as you can until many like us here can no longer do so.With others they will never admit they have been fooled .
i wonder if it will be published ?
i asked when would those responsible name and shame those institutions that have refused to join the redress scheme and if it was a one off event or are they going to continue to do so.. that was the gist of the message .it was to the herald sun newspaper printed in victoria and distributed nation wide.australia.their are about 5 institutions that have refused to sign up ,4 of them are very small institutions and the jehovah`s witnesses are by far the largest body refusing to join.. those of you in australia keep your eyes peeled to the herald sun to see if it gets published or not..
I wonder if it will be published ? I asked when would those responsible name and shame those institutions that have refused to join the redress scheme and if it was a one off event or are they going to continue to do so.
That was the gist of the message .It was to the Herald Sun newspaper printed in Victoria and distributed nation wide.Australia.Their are about 5 institutions that have refused to sign up ,4 of them are very small institutions and the Jehovah`s Witnesses are by far the largest body refusing to join.
Those of you in Australia keep your eyes peeled to the Herald Sun to see if it gets published or not.
the watchtower has the audacity to think it is some authority on the matter of telling parents how to deal with news reports that may disturb them, when for decades it has been promoting a horrific destruction of 99% of people currently living on earth, including detailed pictures in their own 'news reports'.. why would people print disturbing news reports?
one reason that they provide specifically relates to themselves as well.
children may have trouble putting the news in perspective.
And if I may add fast Jehu , If it is difficult for your child to talk about the event, suggest that he draw a picture about it instead.
And don`t beat about the bush son/daughter be as graphic as you can so I can see where your coming from that I maybe able to scare you more so you wont leave our "true religion".
took a long look and meditated on the slave business.
poor time to be a slave.
could be beat as long as the slave didnt die until a day or two later.
On the one hand Satan is the GOD of this system of things ,yet on the other hand Jehovah placed the superior authorities in { this system of things } place that Christians were to be in subjection to. 2Cor.4:4 , ---Rom.13:1-5 ????
my husband insist that i talk to the elders.
it is something i 100% plan on doing for the simple fact of my relationship with him.
i know some of you may disagree but it seems like the best option for us.. problem/question: .
Your husband insisting that you talk to elders implies he is not comfortable, assured or committed to the JW beliefs or the other concerns you wish to raise, otherwise, he should be able to discuss those matters without needing other men to intervene on his behalf.
He knows doing personal research into the concerns you raise will require effort on his part which may lead to his own questions and doubts. By insisting you meet with the elders, he is attempting to take the easy route as he knows he will not need to put in any effort and, they will attempt to change your thinking, not his.
Incognito has summed it up perfectly.
As others have said do not meet with the Elders.The religion to him is not based on doctrines or even a true understanding of what he is supposed to believe.IT`s based on emotion and a feel good utopian religion.
Rather than him making you talk to Elders I would suggest you put the onus on him to read Don Camerons excellent book "Captives of A Concept " available on-line and is very cheap to download ,and if that doesn`t open his eyes ,then the options are yours.
I wish you well .
Edit to say : Welcome to the forum.
