when you look at the image above what do you see?
a sneaker or an outward display that i am now following after another religious group?.
well yesterday i had a 10 minute conversation with an elder who finally got the balls to call me.
What a bunch of morons. They just can't stand to NOT be in control. You can't quit! .... Were going to kick you out!
Reminds me of when I got counceled for owning a 1980 Oldsmobile Cutlas Ciera that had an internation flag emblem on the fender because some were stumbled. I had to sell the car to appease those idiots.
how are we able to do this.. this is not an attempt to stir the pot or cause confusion but i was sitting here thinking of all the really horrid things that the old testament god did to people.
when i was a jw i just purposely put it to the back of my mind always trying to make an excuse.
when i was in field service and someone would ask me about it i would just change the subject.. however i have been reading alot of info lately here about how wonderful jesus is and how he is a direct representation of what god the father would be.
This thread is going to require a lot of popcorn before it gets locked.
the priest acted as if he was the reason why people were there.
he was about 80 and totally disinterested in the affair although he married the deceased and her husband 15 years earlier.. his sermon's gist was that we need faith to accept that the reason why god has us die is so that we can go to heaven.
and that's it.. the only interesting (touching) time was when the grandkids gave testimonials about their beloved grandma.. oh, and one more thing.
I'm convicned the "stand up" "sit down" "kneel" "repeat" is just to keep people from falling asleep. Probably not the real reason.
The most awkward part for the only mass I went to my Gradmothers funeral was as a JW we just all sat there like a bump on a log while everyone else played simon says with the priest.
i realized this about myself yesterday.
i was noticing how on a thread i thought about commenting on, i held back out of a fear i still have of speaking out against the governing body.
i have been disrespectful to the god of the bible and openly proclaimed i do not think he exists.
The GB does gods dirty work. They would stone us to death if they could get away with it.
it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .
i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.
when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.
Grace, You have been here for over 10 years. Certainly that is proof that your skin is not so thin that you would depart because what a few may say.
Please reconsider. I am sure you still have words of wisdom to share with this community.
my wife has told her jw best friend and jw sister that she is givng up the religion!!
and there was i worrying about losing her when i left the cult.
and, to top it all, my 15 and 13 year old children are using their critical thinking skills and can see it all for what it is.
Well done!
saw an opening?.
if we look at christianity it appears that pauls teaching are what formulate it and not jesus.
paul often contradicts the words that are "supposedly" spoken by jesus repeatedly.
Thanks for the examples TD & Kate. Another;
1 Cor 4, Paul says: For though you have countless leaders in christ....
Matt 23, Jesus says: Neither be called leaders for you have one leader, the christ.
It's easy to see why the WT organization loves and rely heavily on Paul's doctrines for their excessive rules & regulations.
saw an opening?.
if we look at christianity it appears that pauls teaching are what formulate it and not jesus.
paul often contradicts the words that are "supposedly" spoken by jesus repeatedly.
Interesting topic. Could someone provide a couple examples of how Paul contradicted the saying of Jesus?
evening.
i have it from 1st hand (or second) that a circuit overseer who gave a talk at twickenham in august 2013 has been disfellowshipped.. .
my dilemma?
People name names on this site all the time. Outrageous things are said about GB members posted right along with their pictures on this site and no one is concerned about privacy.
If a GB member was disfellowshipped would we be concerned about not using his name for the sake of his privacy? I don't see the distniction between GB members and their top company men lap dogs really.
That siad, I am more interested in the reason more than the who. It would really be good to see some defections at high levels, but most likely they were DF for conduct unbecomming a christian.
i have the hardest time meeting singles in the "world".
currently inactive.
but my dating situation is sort of in limbo and its driving me mad..
