Its very difficult to change the mind of a cult member. It has to come from within. You can have the best argument with the most proof and if they don't want to hear it its a waste of time. The best thing we who are out can do is not to bring others out of the cult. They have to do that them self. But to stop others from getting into the cult. Break the cycle before it starts.
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Our Spiritual Heritage of Failed Expectations
by neat blue dog inlast sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.
was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.
in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?
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With these 2 long term building projects will it FINALLY wake up some jdub's?
by nowwhat? inwith the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .
and instead of making due, the org.
has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!
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There is so much crap that should wake up cult member but once in you are surrounded by other cult members telling you its all true, very hard to get out.
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1934 Yearbook hard to find
by rickroll ini have been looking for one and they go for a lot when i do find them.
to the tune of 200 bucks.
are they that rare?.
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I found a millions now living and talking with the dead original. They are a bit hard to find also.
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1934 Yearbook hard to find
by rickroll ini have been looking for one and they go for a lot when i do find them.
to the tune of 200 bucks.
are they that rare?.
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I have been looking for one and they go for a lot when I do find them. To the tune of 200 bucks. Are they that rare?
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Ruin those Ruining th Earth
by peacefulpete init has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.
is this passage being interpreted correctly?
did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.
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Its more twisting of the facts after the prediction. Just like in 1914 WW1 was never predicted but it was glomed onto to support the date. Its like a psychic saying tomorrow a ship will sink and a plane crashes and you say see I am spot on.
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How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?
by minimus init actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?
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For me an most all those I know it was a processes. There is no waking up one day and saying its fake. It takes a lot of research to find its history. That was pre internet. Now its easier and faster to do so.
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Politics Is Literally Getting People Sick!
by minimus inreports indicate that many people are physically and emotionally getting sick because they are disturbed by political matters.
some require professional help!.
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I would say most on the left needed mental help long ago
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Ruin those Ruining th Earth
by peacefulpete init has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.
is this passage being interpreted correctly?
did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.
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We live better today than at any time in history. We now have an avg LE of around 82, 200 years ago maybe 35. What would only be for the very wealth now the most poor have TV, AC food ect all brought to you by fossil fuel. The issue is not what or how we consume, its the population pure and simple. You can not put 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag. There are 8 billion people on the planet and growing. Does not matter if everyone only threw out a quart jar a week of trash at some point the shear amount of people doing it will out weigh the ability of our environment to keep up. So all this we need solar, Wind BS does not mean crap. What we get from oil most idiots who say we need to get off of it don't know what we get from it. They think Gas and cars and live in a city where they don't drive. Well we get everything from Tooth paste to the soles of your shoes from oil. From the pesticides that keep crops from being decimated to the plane the few you to see your family. Solar and wind will not give us what we need to live like we do. If nature does not kill off a lot of humans by disease or something else and we keep expanding uncontrolled it will end badly. My prediction is we will see it end badly I just hope its past my sell by date.
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Article: Fresno, California JW elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl
by AndersonsInfo insubject: fresno, ca jw elder sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl sept. 20, 2019 https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article235306577.html.
fresno, ca church elder makes plea deal in sex abuse case | the fresno bee.
a 45-year-old fresno man, who worked as a police dispatcher in madera, pleaded no contest on friday to charges he sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl from his church.
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I used to talk to my old business partner who was an elder. He would not budge on the idea that Jehovah put it in the minds of the other elders to pick a person for an elder position. LOL. When you feel you have been chosen its impossible to tell someone that its all BS. He loved to think he was chosen by Jehovah. LOL. I made fun of him for years every day. But someone who threw his own family I.E. Brother under the bus for a cult deserves it. -
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What’s The Worst Thing You Have Heard About A JW?
by minimus inthere was a guy that became an elder and he was a father of 8 children including 4 or 5 girls.
he was a little bit on the self righteous side and would counsel people a lot, especially families about how they could be better witnesses.
one day his wife dropped a bombshell!!!
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I knew a couple who told me they got into swinging. Got DFed and one wife almost ran off with the other husband. Elders who were gay, that is the extent of out of the box I have seen. My Grandfather knew a man in Main when he was in the SP service who went to someones door the guy was very nasty and the JW grabbed a shovel near the door and hit him and killed him with it. That was in the 60s I think.