one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
Nostromo
^ They changed that in 1981 because of the famous Peter Gregerson/Ray Franz situation...
Yes, thanks. That's the impression I was left with after reading Ray's books and conversing with him via email.
Shows perhaps how a world wide jw policy can be changed just because of one man.
Good points about how disassociated ones should be treated going forward.
Would make a good wt questions from readers...
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
St George.
I am very unlikely to live for another 10 years.
I might just about last out till then - 50/50 maybe.??
I was thinking St George,
'STAY ALIVE TILL 2034'
Doesn't quite have the same catchy ring to it as Stay Alive till '75 does it!
wt 2013 11/15 p. 20. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. wt feb 2017.
"the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
WT 2013 11/15 p. 20
At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
How does the above statement fit in with all the current and future planned radical changes?
Have the watchtower ditched the 'life saving direction' stuff? Or are all these new changes part of their 'life saving direction'??
there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.
you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.
but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?
I am interested in the possibility of relaxing the rules on birthdays, but I hadn't heard about that before this thread.
Could they really be considering doing that?
does anyone know how punky is ?
he hasn't posted in a while ?
jan from tam .
Thank you Jan.
Although I've never met Punky, I always enjoy his posts and like his outlook on life.
Regards
Ron
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
All they expect is absolute obedience and quickly readjusting to changes without question.
Yes, they remind me a bit of Putin on that score.
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
I seem to remember that before 1980/81 people who dissociated were not treated like disfellowshipped ones??
Then there was an announcement around 1980/81 that we were to treat disfellowshipped and disassociated ones both the same...
The pre 1980/81 years seem like much simpler times if you wanted to leave the watchtower voluntarily without recrimination and shunning...
a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
Until last week you would probably not have heard this line!
"Is this your first time at a Kingdom Hall.."
"My first time? Certainly not, I'm the Congregation Co-Ordinator from New Jersey on vacation!"
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
the actual changes to a DF person is small.
I've been disfellowshipped.
Walking into a strange hall were no one spoke to me at all for over 12 months to try and get reinstated was a huge emotional battle at every single meeting I attended.
People being able to acknowledge/say a warm greeting to me would have made a massive difference to me back then...
(Of course I can only speak for myself on this.)
many are talking on whatsapp about what to wear.
sisters wearing slacks and brothers wearing all sorts of different tops.
Christian Congregation Of Jehovah's Witnesses
Dear Brother Bagpuss,
We thank you for your recent letter enquiring whether your new 'suit' would be appropriate attire for the forthcoming special talk, along with a picture of yourself in the suit.
Before we respond, we notice you are NOT wearing a beard in the picture you sent us.
Please keep up with the all new chariot and resend your pic WITH beard and you can be assured of our favourable response..
