the book reasoning from the scriptures was released in the 1980's, and it was used at virtually every meeting for service, every service meeting, and every theocratic ministry school meeting thereafter.
many jws had copies bound together with their bibles.
it was huge in jw land back then.. at that time, with the reasoning book, jws were trained to keep conversations going in spite of objections, to almost stick their feet in people's doors to keep conversations going, to defend "the truth," to argue doctrine, etc.. compare the situation today with that of the 80's.
Great topic.
I remember they said at first it was 'like having a circuit overseer in your ministry bag'..
Then as the years rolled on and it became so doctrinally out of date in parts it was an utter embarrassment - I remember as a pioneer thinking " If taught the householders what is in this book in it's later years I would be booted out of jw land for apostasy!!
Does anyone know how the 1985 and 1989 versions differed??
fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.
many of the comments are hilarious.. .
a beard prediction for 2024:.
Just saw this article in the paper!
Does Jehovah's chariot need an oil change and a service??
happy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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Apologies, I have been reliably informed that the 3% figure for work on the channel is too high..
happy new year!
time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!
he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.
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did too many jehovah's witness kids get curious about wanting to go to a real college?.
they really don't give an explanation, it's like old light and new light, one reads the new light, and .
in the spirit of loyalty, the subject gets dropped, and there's no more talk about the old name again.. .
Most interesting info thank you.
I found my old 1930-1985 concordance with some old books in boxes yesterday -
Yes, I can quite agree that there must be many more creepy elder stories.
Reminded me that some years ago a sister I have been lifelong friends with confided in me that an elder I thought was a good guy was actually quite a creep.
He visited her when she was ill and when he knew her husband was at work.After some chit chat he then started stroking her hand and said if there was anything he could do for her spiritually,or physically he would oblige.
She told him to leave immediately.
Within a couple of years he ran off with another sister in the hall he was 'shepherding' through difficulties in her life..
are any or all of the gb from jewish descent?.
why are they so fascinated with following ancient jewish 'principles' ?.
isa 43:10, 44:8 ' you are my witnesses ' which they based their religious identity on, jehovah's witnesses, yet those verses address the jews, not christians, which they profess to be.. jesus said in ac 1:8 'you will be witnesses of me ', .
.. but the more I read the Bible, and communicate on this forum and on Beroean Pickets, the stronger the feeling is growing that there is something very different about the current JW religion, it seems quite sinister..
Good observations - I agree!
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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Yes, he is one arrogant, condescending bastard. If survivors want to line up behind him after knowing his FULL backstory good luck to them!
yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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Many thanks for all the answers.
I seem to have a distant memory of letters from the branch to people who asked perplexing problems being told to 'Wait On Jehovah'..not sure when they first started replying with that phrase though?
