We don't control, micro manage you or tell you what to do - everything is your own personal choice dictated by your own bible trained conscience.
If you are a brother, you may now grow a beard.
how many can you think of.... they speak for god.. it would seem presumptuous to say they speak for god,.
they are neither inspired nor infallible.. they are god's only channel for issuing truth here on earth.
they won't be apologising for any errors/falsehoods they have promoted in the past that fail.. congregation members must be quick and apologise for their errors to avoid harsh discipline/disfellowshipping.. when they change a major belief/doctrine you must not complain or criticise them.
We don't control, micro manage you or tell you what to do - everything is your own personal choice dictated by your own bible trained conscience.
If you are a brother, you may now grow a beard.
an elder with half a brain (and they must exist 🧐) is going to see the writing on the wall with the way the wt is manoeuvring them into taking the fall over csa cases.
can an elder in good standing step down with no consequences, official or social?.
LostintheFog1999
It's easier to step aside and walk away, than to say the wrong thing and get kicked out.
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So agree with this - I have had so much peace since gently but firmly fading away.
someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.
so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.
after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.
LostintheFog1999
Someone asked me recently when did I start to have doubts as an elder about what I was teaching from the platform...
Thank you very much for your post.
Your post reminded me of puzzling over that Hebrews 11:10 verse from a jw standpoint as a studious regular pioneer many rears ago..
(I seem to recall reading that Barbara Anderson mentioned Heb 11:10 to a GB member who said something like 'We don't focus/dwell too much on that verse.' If anyone can remember that??)
I hated things as a regular pioneer that I could not explain and prove to householders biblically from a jw perspective.
Heb 11:10 was one.
Another was Rev 19:1 - Great Crowd in heaven.
And also my worst one when conducting a bible study with someone:
For many decades it was taught that the full number of the 144,000 had been chosen by 1935.
God how I hated trying to prove this biblically!!!!
"But it seems that in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed." Watchtower 1996 Aug 15 p.31
fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.
many of the comments are hilarious.. .
a beard prediction for 2024:.
This youtube comment on the subject of wt beards made me smile - I think I know what they meant!😉
This makes me wonder what the bible has to say about shaving my public hair.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.
many of the comments are hilarious.. .
a beard prediction for 2024:.
Sorry to hear of those two previous experiences.
One really overbearing elder used to tell me to get a shave, get a haircut, don't drink too much.
He was a pompous overbearing jackass.
Just heard he has been disfellowshipped for shagging his wife's best friend...
a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
'We say we don't need Christmas to give presents - we say we give gifts all year round - but WE DON'T!'
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Yes, what will he cut off? I think his blurb about his work ethic needs updating!!
a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
'Yes of course I will take and read your literature in exchange for our latest watchtower magazine!'
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
I hope everything works out for you MissDaSilva.
I have faded for many years. It always amuses me when I meet people I haven't met for a long time.
If it's an old worldly workmate, neighbour or schoolfriend they always start with something like: 'Hey it's great to see you - how are you?'
If I meet a jw I haven't seen for a few years they always skip the hello bit and begin with 'Do you still go to the meetings?'...
Uugh - creepy..🤷♂️🤷♂️