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  Do you believe in Miracles?

  by Snoozy in

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  do you believe in miracles?

  i know a lot of strange healings and such occur but why should it happen to one person and not another?

  makes me doubt that real miracles exist... praying for someone..why should one person be prayed for and survive and another one prays and doesn't survive..is god choosey?.

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  I agree Cantleave..

  And Trueblue that is just plain wierd..

  I guess it is possible for miracles to exist but would still think it is unfair for one to be granted and not another..

  Snoozy
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  got my divorce summons....wow it got even weirder

  by oompa in

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  we are both scared and we let each other know ......me for loosing a good woman twice in thirty years....both jw btw....her for losing me....

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  My son just informed me that he is getting a divorce..breaks more hearts than just the one having the divorce...

  This is a second divorce for him. I refuse to get close to his next wife whoever that will be.

  Best of luck to you both and the kids ..

  Snoozy
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  In many ways it made me miserable..but overall it made me happier. I wasn't living a lie anymore. I never could grasp the beliefs of the JW's and even tho I wanted to believe it never came. I tried for 15 years.I seventually saw so much in the JW's that made me think they were all mentally unhinged that I was glad to get out.

  It caused a lot of grief in my family as hubby went back and stayed in and so did his family. Because of that ,since JW hubby died, the JW grandmother and their Aunt and Uncle have nothing to do with the non JW side of the family which was their choice. The kids have no desire to see them as all they heard when visiting them was how they will die if they don't come back to the JW religion.

  Snoozy, only looking forward now..
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  I don't believe there is a heaven...

  by Snoozy in

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  i don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?

  it all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... i got into a discussion about it with my jw converted to catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like i do.

  i am glad she threw away the jw teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but i for one just can't.

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  I guess I was surprised at my daughter's belief..I just never thought after being raised a JW that she would ever turn around..she really believes that everyone will go to heaven..because that is what the priest tells her at church.

  When her FIL (not JW) was dying they all talked of meeting him and heaven and he died peacefully..the scene ws such that he would go and meet them alter. They all believed it. I was a little jealous. Now my daughter is surprised at my beliefs and I feel dirty..

  But to be honest, I can't lie about how I feel. And I can't help how I feel.

  And BTW, I never believed there was really ever going to be a paradise either..I really wanted to but it just wouldn't come.

  So here I am. Waiting for a devine revelation of some sort..

  If God sends me a letter telling me he exists, I want it notorized..

  Snoozy..

  Farkel said and I agree:

  "Yes. I am a skeptic about that. True believers scare the shit out of me. They will KILL people because of their lack of evidence and even their fantasies. Rational people are just looking for reasonable answers, and those kinds of people do not scare me."
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  Unconditional love?

  by Snoozy in

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  whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

  why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

  too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

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  Shades of Grey, that's what my husband did after we got married. I was so young and had been taught that the husband is the boss. He cut me off from my friends saying they weren't good people and he did the same with my family as they weren't JW's. He talked bad about my fammily and when finally one day I decided to go for counseling the Dr talked with one of my daughters and that's when I found out he had brainwashed my kids to think that my side of the family(non JW's) was bad and his (JW's) was good. Funny how things can go on right under your nose and still not have a clue.

  That opened up a big can of worms..

  Big hug to you..

  Snoozy
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  Unconditional love?

  by Snoozy in

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  whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

  why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

  too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

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  I think Talespin knows what I mean..I think today people abuse more than they used to..they take advantage of one another or as someone stated just keep abusing..

  I saw a Dr Phil program that had a grown son on that had molested his younger sister years earlier. They were both on the show as was the mom. The Mom said she loved the boy unconditionally but didn't approve of what he did to her daughter and his sister.. I was imagining how the daughter felt when hearing this..would she feel her mom was taking sides? Would she want her mom to hate the son? It seemed like the girl was also forgiving him and he did apologise saying he now has a daughter and realizes how he must have ruined his sisters life and he was so sorry. At the end the daughter stated that sometimes she wished she had never told as she felt it tore up the family. Dr Phil told her she did not own the act..it was her brothers fault. She should not in any way feel guilty..

  But how can you go on from there? It will always be in their minds..

  This is what gave me the idea of unconditional love..I would think the mom would have been torn in two..would it be the same if it was a father/husband that had molested the daughter? Would she still have unconditional love for him?

  I do understand the part about the abusing relatives..I can see staying away from them.

  Some interesting comments!

  Snoozy
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  A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!

  by metatron in

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  sometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.

  there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').

  in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.

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  Puppet masters..

  Snoozy..
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  Do you believe in Miracles?

  by Snoozy in

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  do you believe in miracles?

  i know a lot of strange healings and such occur but why should it happen to one person and not another?

  makes me doubt that real miracles exist... praying for someone..why should one person be prayed for and survive and another one prays and doesn't survive..is god choosey?.

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  Do you believe in miracles? I know a lot of strange healings and such occur but why should it happen to one person and not another? Makes me doubt that real miracles exist..

  Praying for someone..why should one person be prayed for and survive and another one prays and doesn't survive..is God choosey?

  That would mean that the person with the most friends and the most prayers should win right?

  The whole miracle thing just doesn't seem fair to me..and it doesn't make sense..therefore..

  It must not exist.

  Snoozy
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  I don't believe there is a heaven...

  by Snoozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?

  it all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... i got into a discussion about it with my jw converted to catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like i do.

  i am glad she threw away the jw teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but i for one just can't.

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  Monkey boy, I'm not arguing. I guess I would love someone to really be able to prove it exists..I may need it someday.. And it sounds a lot better than no existance does..

  But alas..I'm afraid no one really can..it is something that is a personal belief like 'Santa' is.

  I guess the good news is that I don't believe in Hell either..just that sleeping forever ruins my plans for the future..

  Snoozy
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  Unconditional love?

  by Snoozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

  why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

  too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

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  I was talking about people in general..I have relatives that get their nose out of joint at a family member and refuse to talk to them..One of them even oked it with a counselor..the counselor backed up their feelings. Said it was OK to have no contact or limited contact with someone (family or not) if they wanted to...

  I always felt that family should stick together no matter what. Talk out the problems and come to a happy medium somehow
  Even with good friends, none of them are perfect but if you throw away everyone you disagree with or if they have an opinion you don't like you will soon end up all alone..

  Just doesn't work for me..

  People just aren't tolerant anymore..they constantly find fault with others and want others to be perfect like they are..

  Snoozy..