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  Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness

  by geodude in

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  i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .

  i have no fear of public speaking.

  i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.

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  I was 3 grades ahead of other kids in school with my reading.

  That could only be true for children in grades 3 or 4 and below as the WT and all JW publications (in the last few decades) are written at a 6th or 7th grade level.
  
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  Financially Are You Doing Better Than A Couple of Years Ago?

  by minimus in

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  we hear how the economy is much healthier now.

  are you better off than you were before, or the same or worse?

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  Yes it can, Minimus. Yes it can!
  
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  Financially Are You Doing Better Than A Couple of Years Ago?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  we hear how the economy is much healthier now.

  are you better off than you were before, or the same or worse?

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  Much, but in my case it's because I finished my education after leaving the JW cult and now am able to earn more money.
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  Who has read Steven Hassen books?

  by Beth Sarim in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to me personally, steven hassen books have had a tremendous influence on my waking-up over the last years.. i have read 3 of his books.. combating cult mind control(2012 edition).

  freedom of mind.

  releasing the bonds.

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  I've read these four books by Hassan:

  • Combating Cult Mind Control
  • Freedom of Mind
  • Releasing the Bonds
  • The Cult of Trump

  Releasing the Bonds is, in my opinion, the best one for an ex-JW seeking to understand how they were recruited into and indoctrinated by a cult and how to heal and rebuild their life.
  
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  Public Talk Outlines!

  by Atlantis in

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  current public talk outlines.

  blank page between each talk.. .

  https://docdro.id/w209l0s.

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  Cute baby!
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  Name one POSITIVE thing you took from your experience as a Witness

  by geodude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .

  i have no fear of public speaking.

  i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.

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  Interesting thread.

  A couple of years ago I attended an ICSA workshop for cult survivors. There were about 25 people in attendance. They were from a wide variety of cults, some I’d never heard of before.

  The workshop facilitator, herself a former member of a psychological cult, asked us if there was anything good or positive about the cult experience.

  Almost everyone had something they could say, but we all agreed the net negative effects far outweighed any benefits we got from it.

  Here is a short list of positive things I learned from joining the JW cult, being in it for 25 years and then leaving:
  

  • Public Speaking Skills - Learned in the cult. I was the TMS overseer for 14 years. As an elder for two decades I had countless opportunities to speak in front of groups large and small.
  • Critical Thinking Ability - Learned when waking up and leaving the cult and honed in the decade since. I am now a high school science teacher with a Master’s in Education.
  • The Psychology of Cult Dynamics - Self taught by trying to figure out how the hell I could have been duped and now what do I do to heal and recover from the traumatic experience of losing my family.

  The first two items on my list are definitely valuable skills and abilities, but there are many ways they can be learned without joining a cult.

  My life would have been just fine—better, no doubt—had I not had to learn the third.
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  Illustration in todays WT

  by road to nowhere in

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  quick glance.

  the guy working the cart has a skinny suit.

  i assume they stage things so where did the sports car come from?

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  Watchtower "Study Edition," December 2019, page 18.
  
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  Disfellowshipped JW's Still Have "Normal Family Relations"

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "when someone is disfellowshipped from the religion, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”a watchtower lawyer clears up this common misunderstanding:.

  https://jwvictims.org/2017/11/19/watchtower-lawyer-lies-outright-in-court-about-disfellowshipping-and-shunning/ .

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  "When someone is disfellowshipped from the religion, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.” - A Watchtower Lawyer
  

  That's such bullshit!

  I know countless people that aren't even disfellowshipped that are shunned by their family merely because they no longer go to the Kingdom Hall to attend meetings.
  

  The leadership of this cult are all morally corrupt liars. They have no shame.

  If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, then your beliefs are not worth defending!
  
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  Do You Believe In Polls?

  by minimus in

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  when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

  i think polls can be and often are skewered.

  i don’t trust them..

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  DOC, I’m aware. So much for democracy!
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  Do You Believe In Polls?

  by minimus in

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  when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

  i think polls can be and often are skewered.

  i don’t trust them..

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  I like this one from the ordinarily, ultra-pro-Trump Fox News:

  • Fox News Poll: More than Half of Registered Voters polled say Senate should remove Trump - (January 19-22, 2020)
    

  
  

  NOTE: This poll was Conducted January 19-22, 2020 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,005 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points for all registered voters.