Interesting, that they convened a board of directors and basically told this fellow that they were God's organization. I didn't realize how much today's GB mirrored the early organization. Russell and Rutherford left a deeper impression than I had thought.
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and early judicial committee with Rutherford
by neat blue dog inwhile disfellowshipping was doubled down on and reinforced during the time of raymond franz, it definitely existed before that when needed and fits right in with rutherford's personality.
here's an account of norman woodworth who left for dawn bible students, and his proto-judicial committee.
all the modern hallmarks of apostasy trials are there, from the witch-hunt nature to the big all-important gotcha question at the end:.
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Not Reporting Child Abuse Should Be Prosecuted
by usualusername1 inanyone who works with children and does not report child sexual abuse should be prosecuted, the final report of a huge, seven-year inquiry has recommended.. this could be huge for elders in the uk.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63318342.
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I think people and organizations will find ways to try to get around any law, but I think in this case the act of charging someone with failure to report is significant in itself. Once the charges are out, the individual (and the organization, most likely) needs to respond, and any attempts at legal maneuvering will be reported. With the WTS, you can be sure that they will get involved immediately in order to protect itself, and hopefully this is where the media spotlight will be shined.
We know that CSA happens and that it happens with horrifying frequency. And we know that there are organizations -including some large religious organizations- that are so determined to protect themselves that they will discard any notion of justice and leave victims strewn about. The most effective way to deal with this problem is to shine a bright light on them when they are acting this way, to shame them into putting the safety and health of children first. The goal is to get these organizations to make it a clear policy to their members-- always report it. The child comes first.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Didn't the report recommend a law mandating reporting of CSA? Or is the complaint that they did not specify penalties for failing to report it?
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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The Biblical God's methods are frequently brutal. We can make an argument that He has the right to be so, but I can't see another way to describe it. Ruthlessly efficient, in some cases, but still brutal.
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Not Reporting Child Abuse Should Be Prosecuted
by usualusername1 inanyone who works with children and does not report child sexual abuse should be prosecuted, the final report of a huge, seven-year inquiry has recommended.. this could be huge for elders in the uk.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63318342.
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In case there is any confusion over the phrase 'works with children,' the article states:
The inquiry says its 20 key recommendations need to be accepted by government as a "matter of urgency".
These include a new law placing a duty to report child abuse on anyone who witnessed it or was told about it by children or perpetrators.In other words: if the law is created and passed, there will be no way to weasel out of it by questioning what it means by "works with children." If you know, you report. If not, you face criminal prosecution.
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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It is a brutally effective way of showing who the real God is, and how he treats those who are on his side versus those who oppose him.
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Anonymous Message to Watchtower
by jwleaks inhttp://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.
hello citizens of the world.
we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.
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It's just like him to play the "do you know who I am" card when he was using a pseudonym.
"Have I read it? I'll have you know that I was consulted for it!"
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When The SHTF.
by Lost in the fog inwe have several non-jdub friends who are busy stockpiling foods and goods for the impending societal collapse.
some are happy enough to be called preppers, others are not, but say that looking at the deteriorating condition of the world that it's only a matter of time before the shtf and they want to be prepared to protect themselves and their families when it happens.. contrast that to the jdubs who are actively telling people that the end of the world is coming, but aren't preparing in a practical way because they have been brainwashed by a "jehovah has always protected his servants" mindset from the gb at hq (who laughingly have no reason to be concerned because they're hoping for a quick getaway up to heaven when the jw 'end of the world' comes!).
the most the average jdub has is a go-bag rucksack in case they have to quickly leave their house in the event of a natural disaster like a flood or a wildfire.. isn't it better to be safe than sorry?
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A good JW would stockpile two things: a stack of literature to hand out, and all the faith they can muster. After all, God will provide! There's no way it ends with them starving to death and being eaten by rampaging marauders, who then use the pamphlets as toilet paper.
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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”
by cedars ina new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.
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We urgently need a responsible moderator to be appointed from Europe, South Africa, or Australia/NZ. I rule myself out of consideration
LOL. It was very big of him to turn down the (un-offered) job of moderator. I'm sure he would have been the very model of an impartial and fair jurist.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Thisismein1972: "I do not know why I am following this site, I will take my leave" then returns as soon as he has either had enough sympathy, are someone has "insulted" him.
He uses that tactic to goad people into supporting him, either by asking him not to leave because they value his work/input or by asking others to leave him alone. He did it during the livestream and in the following weeks on Twitter. I think he might be doing it less because now there are fewer people offering support and more people telling him that yes, perhaps it is time he disappeared. Without the dopamine rush of people racing to pat him on the back, it's not as attractive an option.
I think he is replacing it with the "look at what a great daddy I am" messages and pictures. He gets support from people fawning over his children, and he can bark back at anyone who makes a critical comment, claiming that they're persecuting his family. I'm wondering how long this phase will last, but there is a time limit, since his children will probably figure him out sooner than he might expect. And I think he'll use every underhanded tactic on them that he uses on everyone else. It will be ugly.