anyone in australia heard this one... .
apparently sometime in the 1980s a congregation in south-east melbourne had half its publishers resign due to those publishers reading apostate literature.. true?.
from ak
the bomb was the work of a disgruntled husband ( and former brother)....
he packed it with nails. and set it under or near the platform (memory gone hazy)
the speaker for the day was david winder**, a former bethelite and CO. he had his clothes blown off -- and was indeed lucky not to die.
can't remember the year -- maybe 20 years ago.
** was also chairman of me df committee.
how many of you are now atheists or agnostics?
how many of you have actually converted to another organized religion?
personally i find myself doubting anything and everything i learned about the bible and religion.
can' believe christianity any more...
can't believe the bible anymore...
(Why!! -- well, i know that my sexual feelings came from within - not without...what i am is natural for me)..
but!! i appreciate spirituality -- especially the 2 spirit stuff that gay men have always been associated with ...
i also like taoism
and some things about buddhism (watching thais in thailand demonstrated spirituality in a way that i never say in the city of dubs).
and - i want to be buried with hindu rites - really beautiful funerals!!!
thought i'd share some of my experiences with you all!.
sister x, was somewhat of an enigma in the congregation, certainly a 'one-off'!
allegedly she suffered from an 'illness' that incapacitated her at strangely convenient times!
this is a really interesting aspect of life in dub city!!
"the govt. belongs to satan.." "we are NO part of the world " and all the other shit they go on with.
but, they all know where to run when they want some financial help..
i watched for years as my former father-in-law, a well known name in some parts of OZ, and a former circuit overseer fought a running battle with the oz federal govt. to try to obtain a full pension as an ex-soldier (and POW) ... he was capable of supporting himself...but wanted this pension so that he could pioneer... when he exhausted all avenues and was finally rejected, he wrote abusive letters claiming prejudice on the part of the officials
as i said .. a really interesting aspect of jw psychology!!
syn had a funny little dittie about jw's and trekkies here:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29001&site=3.
what do you get when you put a bunch of computer literate star trek fans together on a forum?
it was so stated in a publication... (as i posted a couple of days ago..!!)
can't remember which book (i think maybe the second of the pocket sized hard covers), but probably in the 60's.
of course, NOT that we WOULD, but as maybe!!!!!!
it's already been mentioned -- but worth mentioning again.. if u live in oz, i think this is great tv tonite.
australia's most prominent catholic exposed as he tries to cover up the sins of one of his mates.... here's an extract from the advance publicity from the shows website.... .
that 10 years ago dr george pell attempted to bribe a distressed young man who'd been sexually assaulted by a priest and that dr pell did this to cover up a potential scandal and to protect his church.. and, as you'll see, there's more allegations of money offered to silence the family of two young girls, more tragic victims of a predator in the catholic church.
it's already been mentioned -- but worth mentioning again.
if u live in oz, i think this is great tv tonite.
australia's most prominent catholic exposed as he tries to cover up the sins of one of his mates...
here's an extract from the advance publicity from the shows website...
that 10 years ago Dr George Pell attempted to bribe a distressed young man who'd been sexually assaulted by a priest — and that Dr Pell did this to cover up a potential scandal and to protect his church.
And, as you'll see, there's more allegations of money offered to silence the family of two young girls, more tragic victims of a predator in the Catholic Church.
here's their site:
http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/sixtyminutes/stories/2002_06_02/story_600.asp
you can read my bio to find out a little about me.
basically, i need support.
even after two years, i still think.
hey!! i love dancing too!!!
the younger anointed (those who came in after 1935) in the organization are treated by the gb as both a whore and a beloved wife.. the whore: for years they have published articles whose intent was to denigrate the younger anointed.
as a result many of these younger anointed ones have had to fight a spiritual uphill battle with their elders and circuit overseers because the watchtower paints them as falsely claiming spiritual union with the christ.. .
the beloved wife: yet, it is from this group of younger anointed that the gb has picked 5 members of the governing body!!
yeah! the worlds gone mad!!!
but so has dub city --- you could not call it a haven of peace, could u?
still mad -- just in different ways..
poor, poor jws!!!!!
i have heard this from jws many times.
they say that when the whole congregation is corrupt it is clearly noticable that jehovah's spirit is not with them.
eventually if the whole congregation is corrupt the gb dissolves the whole congregation.. jws say this as if it were from personal experience.
if, after a long period, there is no progress (growth) in a congregation or area, the society will adjust boundaries, or move people in to try to stimulate growth.
but most of know how superstituos are those who live in dub city... so the r&f will always look for a superstitous reason...like a secret sin in the congregation.....
mostly tho, the real reason for lack of growth is demographic... the sort of person who becomes a witness, simply arn't in that territory.
eg. in a area where the average household income is above average, and most residents have university degrees and careers, there will not be much growth. so the WTS may send in pioneers, and some studies will develop... but mostly with old ladies who are a bit lonely and like the attention and company.
i was thinking today about all the time i spent on the ministry.. walking down the street with my suit and briefcase ready to defend the truth.. i recalled some of the conversations i had , had.some of the bible studies i conducted, the talks i had given the groups i had taken.. i remmebered the way i defended my faith and belief in jehovah and the jehovahs witness organisation.. how much i must have believed it was the truth.. i spent 3 years as an auxillary pioneer and called on many thousands of people.. yet all along i was wrong.. every time i defened my beliefs i was wrong.. every talk i studied and prepeared long and hard for, i was wrong.. all the things i gave up for the truth i was wrong.. what an idiot.
ME TOO!!!
can't say all the times were bad-- i had some good times, some great friends....
thos if course, the party line prevents them from contacting me ... but, i know in their hearts they think of me.... as i do of them...
the strange thingis, that if my repressed sexual feelings had not returned (like a tidal wave) i would probably still be there... babbling on about you apostates, out here..
dfing was a swift, hard kick in the head*** that caused me to start thinking...not str8 away, mind you.. For 6 months i tried to change myself back...studying & praying 2-3 hours a day...preparing every talk in the program -- well, not the SM, wasn't allowed the precious kingdom ministry, looking up every scripture mentioned in the meeting, even tho i prob. knew it by heart.
i missed my kids like crazy, my heart was covered in a black fog in my despair at not seeing them
i goaded myself to change again with the threat of suicide, if i failed!!! and knew at the end of 6 months that i had failed and must face death.....
now a double sin enveloped me!! so i set out to plan a great final holiday on Visa card..and then to drive a car of a cliff that i knew .. i could not face a gun, and the final trigger, but could set a car in motion and drive over a cliff..
well!!!! i am still here!!!
but sad, i guess that i wasted my life on trash!!!!!
and cheeeee!! some of my gay friends that are religious find it hard to understand my dislike of christianity..
*** interesting isn't it... dfing is supposed to ahve the opposite result...but i observe here, that for many it became the trigger that caused them to think and AWAKE from spiritual sleep (drugged more like it..) LOL!!!
below is an e-mail i received from a former sister in the pacific northwest.
she was df'd several months ago for discovering and asking about the un controversy.
being rather inexperienced with the internet, she stumbled onto freeminds.org (i believe) and printed out info on the wts's un connection.
question? what are these dumb bastards on the GB taking that makes them so fucking stupid????
and this lady..... you are a a special person!!!!!!
