Anyone else notice nary a Costa Rican in that Congregation photo?
problemaddict
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problemaddict
So......here is the million dollar question. How do I deprogram the wife around the time of these meetings? I mean, the thing is full of assumption that is blindly accepted to begin with.
This association between the heavenly and "earthly" organization of God, is asticking point for everyone still in. How can a conversation about this be started in your guys opinions?
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When do you think there will be a revised "Reasoning Book"
by Amelia Ashton inbecause i was abroad we had to use the original revelation book and only the reader had the new improved version so i don't know if this was the same else where but following along using the old version made the adjustments seem even more ludicrous.. why didn't they ensure everyone had the new version before studying it rather than highlight all the "adjustments" that had to be made in a km and therefore making them more obvious?.
do you think there could be a list of amendments to be inserted into the reasoning book in the same way?.
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problemaddict
30 years old. I have been saying this is outdated for the past 6 or 7 years BEFORE I even came here.
It even has "old light" if I'm not mistaken.
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OMG...I missed the whole SPARLOCK craze....
by Pyramid Scheme ini hadn't been on the board to visit much last year, so i have been going back and poking around through the older threads since i started to post here.
i was on jwfacts.com, and noticed paul had posted a brief article about the jw video and the evil sparlock the warrior wizard.
we have no children, and i never got those videos anyway (even when i was still an elder), so when i went back and read all of the old threads, i was crying laughing.
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problemaddict
I did too. I still want to get amug. Did the branch really file copyright infringement on Sparlock? Does that mean they have copywritten the Sparlock character?
Awesomely ironic.
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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!
by ekruks inlike many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
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problemaddict
What letter says this?
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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!
by ekruks inlike many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
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problemaddict
I know I made a decision, but I made it under incredible duress/pressure, and with very limited facts, being ignorant, brought up in the Truth. I didn't even know what an 'undergraduate' was, or how much more people with degrees earn. If we had been encouraged to study when younger, who knows where people on this forum might be today. I'll make the best of the mess I'm in, and study, and improve my life, but it's like I stated a marathon an hour late.
Hey E,
I hope my words didn't come of as offensive. I 100% understand where you are coming from. I have no degree, but do pretty well. Others have degrees and don't. So much of it is about you and what you do. i am not suggesting you weren't hobbled b y a belief system you now do not agree with, and i applud your decision to do something you want to do now. I am merely suggesting that adopting the attitude that you are always responsible for your own decisions as an adult, is the way to heal from being at the tit of a group of people that teach you the opposite. You can't take that mentality and give it a starting point. It has to be adopted universally, which means YOU decided not to go to college. the reasons are irrelevant. NOW YOU decided to go to school because you want to. Regret is meaningless and a waste of energy.
Whatever people did to you then, con't hurt you today, without you making the decision for it to hurt you. This is because time only moves forward. Its like if your car gets broken into. It happens. It sucks. But if you live in fear of your car being broken into, you are letting something that already happened (not currently happening), affect you today and every day. i am suggesting to look at time as a filter. Only you can create import for things that are not currently happening to you.
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My wife and I went to dinner with a group of "worldly" - NORMAL - people
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my wife and i were invited to dinner by a coworker of hers.
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problemaddict
Yo Dazed. So I was thinking about something here since you and I are around the same age. Since being associated with you fine apostate bretheren here puts us ahead of the curve on assemblies etc..., why not figure out when they are going to have an assembly with something we know may get at our wives heart strings and pull them in.
Follow me here. If I knew there was going to be a part on a CA about mates "leaving the truth", or about a subject I have recently been able to may hay on with the wife....I might be inclined to GO TO THE ASSEMBLY, simply to be able to deprogram while its happening. I tried this recently, and they were talking about the authority f the slave. I pulled up the scripture that says "all authority in heaven and on earth" is with jesus. Just kind of showed it to her and gave the crazy sign.
It helps when the person she loves the most, is sitting there doing small things, while everyone else in the room is just nodding their heads. I did WELL with this tactic.
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Several Sites Are Down
by Juan Viejo2 inin case you have noticed, several websites that are managed and administered by me are down.
at this moment i do not know specifically why, but my hosting company (secureserver.net) tells me only that it is due to a "copyright infringement.
" i do not even know which of the 30 some sites might actually have the claimed infringement and so far all i've been told is that there is a claim and that i have to email a certain group and they will get back to me.. i have no idea when these sites will come back on line.
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Very interesting.
Well, I suppose it is embarrasing. I think we should print out copies, highlight the pertinent sentances, and just put them on cars during the assembly by using a local evangelical group or something.
I mean....honesty. What curious JW is not going to look at a letter marked "Body of Elders". Then if someone reads it, and claims it is a lie, the person they are making that claim too (maybe an elder), cannot dispute it.
Why come up with a flashy "apostate" marketing, when just a reprint of the BOE with a few highlights can do the job so well.
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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!
by ekruks inlike many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.
after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).
i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.
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Well ok lets think about this.
Yes they discourage higher education to no limit. It is pretty sick.
BUT.......your friend was right. I mean you did chose not to go to college. Their influence cannot be denied, but YOU made the choice not to go.
The only reason I'm even bringing this up, is because sometimes taking responsabiltiy for your actions, even if bullied into it, is a serious step to healing. This persons ignorance notwithstanding, it simply just doesn't matter. You are where you are because of decisions you have made. Now you are making different ones, and life is good! Don't let things that have already happened, impact you now. Know what I mean?
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Anyone with Happy Memories from being a JW born in, please post here....
by SkyGreen infirst up, happy new year .
hi everyone, ok i guess this is controversial, but im doing it as therapy for me - so im not bitter about the way i was raised.
plus i want to see if i can be the op of an "epic thread"!!.
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problemaddict
The culture for me was great. I had no issues. Especially when I didn't know what free thinking really was. I am also very fortunate comparred with many here. I didn't start to question things because of a personal bad experience or anything, just because I didn't think some teachings were adding up.
I had good friends, and I took pride in being different (but not too different). I walked the line, but was always on the JW side of it. I became a very good speaker, had no fear of man, and was very good at speaking in public. I had a kind and loving mother, and was at the warm center of a creamy delicious hall. I started screwing around, and having sex. When I did, I dealt with it the way I was taught, and was given lots of chances and lots of kind atttention. It really was the way I think it is supposed to be.
The book studies, the meetings, i really enjoyed them, and wasn't made to fee guilty if I missed one. I still have very good friends from my youth.....some in.....some out.
Now I may feel differently if I ever had to make a decision about blood, or about shunning someone who wasn't a bad person. I just wasn't faced with those hard decisions. I even served in other countreis, and loved it. Once I figured out how much control really was exerted, and eventually was in a position to push back.......then it went to hell. Thanks goodness. The society is the arcitect of its own demise.