Posts by problemaddict

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If you are fader, how do you handle assignments etc.

by Slidin Fast in

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problemaddict

Interesting topic.

I knew (know) a person who is no longer an elder for whatever reason, but he was known as a very good speaker. So he gets asked to go to congregations and give parts. He accepts these requests outside of his own state usually and gives parts. He tries to walk within the balance of his own convictions, but fails miserably at this. In speaking with him, I told him that even if he isn't technically SAYING anything that went against his conscience, when he came in as a "special speaker" he was just promoting that which he no longer believed in, the GB.

He likes to "teach" and I respect that. He didn't see the connection. I did. I haven't given a talk since my own conversation with this person.

Before when I was still serving, I just made sure I didn't teach anything agaisnt my conscience, and I would "switch" parts that I didn't agree with for a more benign part the following week or what have you. I just after talking to this friend of mine and seeing what he was atrempting, could no longer put myself in that position.

He said it was more for him than for them. The pinnacle of selfishness.

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Watch Tower Publishing Literature To Incite Hatred Towards All Religions, All Earthly Government, And People Not Jehovah Witnesses

by frankiespeakin in

now i know that there are some here that can supply plenty of documented proof as to the hatred inciting teachings of the past presidents and the now rulling governing body in the literature they export world wide.. any former member who has changed his mind and no longer excepts these hate inspireing teachings of the governing body is labeled "mentally diseased" meaning these people are to be avoided because they have a catchy mental malfunction that is deadly.. all governments are controlled by an invisible master mind who has only evil intentions and is leading the vast majority of the human race to thier destruction.

and thier followers are encouraged to hate what jehovah hates and jehovah hates all the governments of the earth includeing isreal and even the united nations of which they are members as an ngo.. in russia thier literature is rightly ban because it is reccognized as hatred inspireing.

(no shit sherlock!).

problemaddict

Has the literature always been banned there, or is this new?

Honestly, I am not sure I understand the premise of the post. I don't think the WYBTS is going anywhere anytime soon guys. I realize that people here would like that, but I just don't see it happening.

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A great picture for proving that JWs aren't weird and cultish...

by cedars in

it's a shame this is only in the study edition, so the general public can't see how normal and down-to-earth the witnesses are in how they perceive themselves.... .

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cedars.

problemaddict

So wat is the purpose of this photo? I may go to meeting to hear the comments about it.

Are they attempting to paint active fild service participation with the only way to be "safe" on the earth? In other words, if you do not center your life around this, then Satan can get you because you aren't under protection?

Is that the not so subliminal message?

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Interesting Jesus cults

by Christ Alone in

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larsinger and his posts got me to thinking about others that believe/believed that they are/were jesus.

i started looking up a ton of info and stumbled across some pretty interesting cults.

i just wanted to create a thread to talk about or post videos, links, or articles about modern day cults that you have found interesting.

problemaddict

Isn't there an actual disorder that makes people visiting Jerusalem thing they are Jesus? Jerusalem Syndrome?

They made fun of it in the Simpsons episode, "The Greatest Story Ever D'ohed"

35

I am exhausted emotionally.

by PaintedToeNail in

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i have been reading ashley judd's 'all things bitter and sweet' autobiography, and it has exhausted me.

she paints a picture of neglect and abuse from early childhood on.

as i sat reading, i realised i was identifying with so much of what she wrote.. why, when having an emotional breakdown as a teenager, major obsessive compulsive disorder, obvious depression symptoms, would you refuse to get medical help for your child?

problemaddict

I always found it interesting when peopel would put their family through hardship to stay "where the need was great". With 67% of kids raised as JW's leaving the religion of their youth, it would seem the need is great under their own roof where they already lived.

Your story is very sad. I was fortuante to have a very balanced JW upbringing and I thank my mother and father for that. i feel very fortunate they didn't go the fundamentalist route your parents did.

They kept you alive (barely), but now you are free of a negative influence. Time only moves in one direction, and those things are no longer happening to you, so I know it sounds oversimplified, but you have to complete that circle of letting things that already happen, continue to affect your now. Know what I mean? Think on that concept for a while. That the event that caused your pain has already happened. So what causes the pain now since it isn't happening now?

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Conversation i had with a witness girl on Facebook recently

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

i posted a really nice song....here's the link to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn2uydzuoqu.

five minutes after this happened.. .

problemaddict

I had a recent bout with someone when I suggested something for exercise that they felt could be spiritistic. It was a pretty benign suggestion, and I was not pushy. It turned into a whole the slave has written an article against that blah blah blah. I was crazy respectful, and said that I understood and he needed to listen to his conscience, but he was so defensive and insistant that I feel the same way as he did, that is was very offputting.

He then proceeded to call a friend of mine and ask if I was "ok". Matthew 18 indeed.

I just can't shut up. I'm going to dig my own grave if I'm not careful.

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Stronger Christian presence on JWN?

by Christ Alone in

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i've only been a member here for a short time, but it seems like there are more christians on the board lately.

for the first few months that i was on jwn, it appeared that there were very few that argued in favor of a creator and belief in the bible in particular.

there seems to be several more that have recently joined...or at least posted more regularly regarding belief.

problemaddict

^^^^^^Agreed.

This board really exists because of what we all have in common to varying degrees, as far as our upbringing or our one time belief system which has inevitably shaped our world view and in many ways still does.

Christian or Athiest or everything else aside, our starting point is what brings us here. And a common enemy if I dare say,

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The Cove - A documentary about the Slaughter of Dolphins.

by LouBelle in

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i watched a very disturbing doccie yesturday.

in japan, come september, dolphin season opens.

23 000 dolphins are hearded into a trap.

problemaddict

The cove won the Oscar in 2009. I watched it then. Yeah pretty awful. I eat meat, but cruelty to these animals is just mind blowing. I have no idea what kind of person can do this stuff.

Then again, I don't feel that way about chickens or cows. I don't want them mistreated, but I do want to eat them after they die without knowing its going to happen.

Hypocritical? You bet.

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Jehovah's Witnesses dismayed by new magazine format from Watchtower Society.

by Balaamsass in

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wow.

i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.

i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.

problemaddict

Honestly guys, I don't think anyone has breathed a negative word to me in the least if any word at all. I think here in Cali, people are pretty used to high tech and see it as an improvement rather than anything else.

I bet e mail subscriptions are right around the corner.

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1975 - A weak argument?

by Christ Alone in

i posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.

i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.

was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?

problemaddict

Finkel I think your more insulting and second post was written while I was writing. Apologies.

So stupid or redundant as it may be, the REALITY of the mind set in question relating to the OP, is exactly what I stated.

For you it is clear cut. I agree that the language is loaded. But the double talk confuses the average JW. Point blank they claim to be a "prophet" in the "uninspired" way someone declares something. They do not claim that God speak to them like Moses, the prophets of old etc.... They claim that their use of the word prophet fits the definitiaon I gave above.

I am not arguing FOR the WTBTS here. just trying to deal with things actually as they are, not as I personally think is the only reasonable way to view them. For the 50th time, I am here to learn and try to pull people out of this. So I am developing a war room strategy. Alot of people come here with that focus no?