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  Jehovah Misses Me

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  made the mistake of opening the front door today...i was expecting someone to service our central heating...oh dear, it was a sister instead :(.

  she tells me jehovah misses me.

  it seems god only sees me if i go to the meetings.

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  Spiral

  Ah, yes, Jehovah misses you because it's harder to jerk your chain or watch you twist in the wind emotionally if you're elsewhere, and happy.

  @Giordano, I agree. The JWs have turned their God into some sort of Good Luck Charm crossed with an idol in a temple. If he's not happy, you just keep throwing stuff (or your children, or your happiness) at him until he sweetens up.

  I was told something similar to this a couple of years ago, by a "spiritual sister" who saw me at the grocery store. Oh, so righteous. Happiness can only be found at the KH. Or..... is it that prescription drug habit that's keeping you happy? Just sayin'.
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  Older publications.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's amazing what you can stumble upon on the internet these days.

  i just came across this site.

  maybe you already knew about it, but i did not.

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  Spiral

  I agree with Smiddy that the GB are embarrassed by the earlier publications (who wouldn't be?). I kept a couple of ones from my mother's library (with quotes relating to 1975 and the "end of the system by the end of the 20th century").

  I also obtained an original 1980 yearbook off of Amazon for a few dollars.

  The last thing they want to see is someone with physical proof of all the crazy stuff they wrote earlier.

  It also occurred to me that we are in a new era - the WT and AW (are there still Awakes?) will be quite rare in print and hardly seen by people who are not JWs. Printing is fading away. This would have been absolutely unthinkable in the 70s and 80s.

  It does make it easier on the GB, they can just re-write history as needed. Modern society, because of the internet, doesn't maintain a "tribal knowledge" of literature based on books, as in centuries past.
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  FBI, The Mob and Loyalty

  by JaniceA in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was reading an excerpt from comets memoir and was this quote (seen a lot in regards to trump) but my mind kept going back to wt and the mind f#ck they have going on with jws.

  i know i'm not the only one whose mind went straight to the borg.

  i hope lots of use have the same connection.

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  Spiral

  I see the similarity. A friend of mine continues to shun her brother because she wants to "maintain loyalty" blah blah blah..... same idea. Loyalty above common sense, loyalty above your own ethics.
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  Loosing your Privleges and Scumbag elders

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.

  we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.

  anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.

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  Spiral

  Addison, this is how the bOrg and the elders ABUSE single women. Jerking them around over their private life, taking a ridiculous "privilege" away, and then just basically making your congregation life dull and demeaning. I can name several sisters I know in this situation, who have wasted years - decades - on the hamster wheel of congregational approval.

  Then, if they do get married, it's frequently to someone they would never have picked initially. The bOrg's rules for chaperoning ruin most chances of getting to know your prospective spouse in any real way before you get married. And then, no divorce allowed!

  RUN, GO, BE FREE!!!
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  Thanks WT. for making it so easy for us when we come after you- sincerely GOG OF MAGOG

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "soon very soon when we come after you we will have easy access to every witness address and info thanks to your database that you have set up!

  "- satan's hordes.

  remember back in the 90's they didn't want the elders to have a publisher list on their computer for fear the govt.

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  Hi nowwhat, I thought the same thing! I do remember. I don't even think they remember what they've told the R&F and when.
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  Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

  open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

  [videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

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  Probably the PIMI people in the org care more about who gets what scandalous details than those of us who are out. An old JW friend of mine is really upset about what she imagines was written about her and her family when they moved congregations. Because she can't see the letters and she thinks the elders in the new congregation are looking at them "funny" (paranoid much?) she's all in a twist about it. And perhaps rightly so, who knows?

  If you're out, you really don't care, unless I suppose you were actually accused of something really serious (and real).
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  My Belief in Prayer

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my belief in prayer was once bolstered by my strong attachment to what i had read in aid to bible understanding.

  my having a part in its initial prep in the factory and, later, a detailed proofing of thousands of references to it made this bible dictionary an influence in my former life.

  please note this extract on jehovah's seeming delay in the answering of prayer.

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  Spiral

  Just goes to show that the JW god is a cold fish, indeed. Probably, maybe, sometime, if he feels like it, he might act. Otherwise, you humans just try waiting a few centuries longer for help.
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  Motives Matter

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?

  ) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.

  the gb knows this.

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  AllTimeJeff: Interesting turn on the discussion. The Sheeples are a special lot. As an old saying goes, “If you don’t have anything planned for your life, you’ll likely fall into the plans of someone else. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much!”

  You know the sad thing is, at this point, I see that some of my JW friends (I'm in my 50s) just don't have the guts to tell their relatives (as in righteous elderly parents) they don't want to be a JW anymore.

  Sad, but how wonderful is THAT for the GB. Followers (and contributors) who don't have the courage to quit, and keep on giving!

  
  
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  "I am so excited to hear the Sunday morning talks at this summer's convention"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a super uber jdub relative who lives several states away.

  he is always trying to encourage me since he knows that i stopped going to the kingdom haul.

  anyhow, he sends me a copy of the program for the summer regional convention and pointed out the sunday morning talks.

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  Spiral

  That's brilliant and evil, Sour Grapes!

  If he wants to "eagerly anticipate" listening to that drivel, well there's no fixing that. But you might have just taken a little of the shine off that anticipation.
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  Aeon: How tyrants work up crowds. [Interesting reading. Think Rutherford; Think JW Conventions]

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  important reading:.

  https://aeon.co/essays/the-omnipotent-victim-how-tyrants-work-up-a-crowds-devotion.

  after reading the article, please read the commentary: .

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  Spiral

  Excellent reading, thank you for posting. So appropriate today given the subject. Commentary is spot on as well.