Posts by HelpMeBelieve

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The WT Encourages JWs to learn about the early history of the organization! - 8/15/12 WT

by 00DAD in

ironically, in today's wt, jws are encouraged to study the early history of the "earthly organization".

like them [the sons of korah], do you have a desire to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization?

the more you learn about gods organization and how jehovah supports his people, the more real gods kingdom will be to you.

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When I was a child, we had that silly book (I can't think of it's name! There was dialogue between two couples, two old, two new discussing early Bible Students activity.) that glorfied Russell and Ruther-nut (The book contains a story of the sister who cut Ruther-nut's chicken incorrectly, the sharp bones cut his lip and tongue. Ruther hated bones in his chicken, as the story goes, he kindly shows the sister cooking at bethel how to properly cut-choke his chicken right)

Sites like JWN, JWFacts tell the real history of the early Bible Students. I regress to Eric's video trial, as the young elder "Eric" was convinced it's impossible for leaks to make their way to the Internet. All the negative information must be a lie or a spoof, it's not possible for elders to desire change or leak memos of stupid polices to the public We are thrown a "red herring" frequently by die-hards " the Society's errors are barely negligible, once you compare them to the Catholic Church and their Inquisition!"

Attack the worst aspects of Christendom's history allows us to down-play our short-comings. Let's compare the Society's "great acts of mercy" to Christendom's! Jesus said, "what benefit is it if you love those who love you?" I am not aware of any charity acts on a regular basis the Society provides to the World's poor. Can you?

Focus on the bad deeds, unless you are talking about early JW history, than we focus on "flickering light", "the light's not bright before the Sun start's to rise" "I still think those elder letters, reports are fake" Eric the elder from "Apostate Trial Video".

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The Watchtower Meltdown Has Begun! "new-light" equals "dark-energy".

by HelpMeBelieve in

"strike while the iron is hot!

jehovah's witnesses are confused regarding the present "times and seasons", more brothers and sisters are resigning themselves to the fact, that they will probably die before jesus christ returns.

men and women are realizing things don't make sense, yet they continue to put their heads down and remain loyal to "men", not jehovah god.

HelpMeBelieve

"Strike while the iron is hot!"

Jehovah's Witnesses are confused regarding the present "times and seasons", more brothers and sisters are resigning themselves to the fact, that they will probably die before Jesus Christ returns.

Men and women are realizing things don't make sense, yet they continue to put their heads down and remain loyal to "men", not Jehovah God. Logically speaking, how would any reasonable, seasoned veteran-keen reader of the Watchtower and Awake Magazine, reconcile the appointment of a 47 year to the "Governing Body-Annointed-New Faithful Slave class-God's mediator between mankind and Jesus of Nazerath"?

The recent "Letters To The Christian Congregation Body of Elders" allowing pedophiles to be used is dangerous and arrogant! According to that letter, if a "child-sex offender" has developed a "good name" over time, he could be used and reach out for congregation priveleges. This is not "Best Practices"! A deviant sex-offender knows how to conceal his habits through other outlets, eventually his ugly habits will surface again. The Baptist Church will not risk a "child-sex offender" ever running a church or insinuate they are in authority!

Why are those men in Brooklyn so arrogant? Giving a sex-offender some type of responsibility in the Kingdom Hall authenticates him as a "man of God", "he has priveledges, therefore he must be a great person!" We are not dealing with the highest level of thinking people here, it's up to us, to put questions in the minds of the mindless!

The are of prevarication is mastered by the writing department, the "October BOE Letter" so obviously states parents: "they are responsible for their children (no shit sparlock!) and their welfare". Old-timer members of any Kingdom Hall, Congregation or believers, are told from time to time, to allow yourself to be wronged", "let your brother take the shirt off your back before taking him to court", "don't talk to the media", "don't bring reproach by insinuating everying's not okie-dokie in the "New World Society". so in actuality, this letter is covering the Corp's ass, not the "little-sheep of JC'!

Now we learn the "annointed are not part of the Faithful Slave (Really, who did not see this one coming? We long-timers knew this was how the Watchtower unoffically spoke behind the scene, after watching Eric's trial, I had to agree how Bethel workers were treated. It's not a paradise shield from Satan's sinful world, it's a mentally compressed vice that crushes out any individuality. One does not need a degree in rocket-science to connect all the dots, and draw the picture of what is on its way!

Expect more rash "new-light" as the Society burn's down many long-held, "gray area" belives being replaced by more "new and improved" versions of light. Think about what our dear brothers are doing in New York, they are creating a "Road Map" for the new generation of annointed, and rank-and-file sheep.

In times of great depression and uncertainty, you make the most drastic changes to your model of beliefs. When was the last time any JW with real faith and knowledge, actually said "The End is on top of us now!". Older ones are watching their friends die off like flies, younger ones see confusion in the family dynamics as smart parents dismiss "new light" as rubish! You think so?

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DON'T CARE When They Are Lied To!

by minimus in

jw
friends

they will continue being faithful jws.

they will accept whatever is spoon fed to them.

they can be told they have the "truth" and in one day, realize everything they believed in wasn't true after all!.

HelpMeBelieve

Something about "being the rightest people on Earth" does not permit failure. The video trial of Eric was proof when men are presented with facts that break their long-held beliefs, men and women will curl up like a baby in fetal position until the debate is over.

Ssshhhhh minimus! Someone here might hear you say their "faith-slave" makes blunders, errors and mistakes from pedophiles to prophecy!

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DON'T CARE When They Are Lied To!

by minimus in

jw
friends

they will continue being faithful jws.

they will accept whatever is spoon fed to them.

they can be told they have the "truth" and in one day, realize everything they believed in wasn't true after all!.

HelpMeBelieve

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Fb status of a Young JW Mom. Sooo Sick!

by 3dogs1husband in

can't believe that we made it through the whole assembly, **** wasn't feeling good last night, has a cold, was pretty cranky, then he seemed fine and minutes later im making a bowl with my hands for him to throw up in while we are sitting (the joys of parenthood) then into a plastic bag, then very quickly ran to the bathroom for even more throwing up, but suprisingly we stayed for the rest of the day.

trying to think of a response.

i am not "out" on fb soooo sick from this i wanna throw up myself...poor children!.

HelpMeBelieve

Steve, thanks for breaking up the generalizations.

"To conclude from this that JW parents are themselves "sick" (as in the head) or uncaring is contentious. As another poster said, often attendees are kind of expected to stay and/or endure hardship - it can be hard also if you're dependent on others for transport"

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

HelpMeBelieve

djegg, may I second the motion?

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

HelpMeBelieve

Mp, how about debating

Paul L. Maier, The Russell H. Seibert Professor of Ancient History, Western Michigan University? His fiction books are so-so but his expertise is with ancient Christianity, he is formidible for being an old geezer! We both are reading different historical accounts of Jews and Christians. Are you using other sources than Wiki, have you read the big volume books with plenty of details or do you focus on anti-Jesus websites? I've read most of Maier's, Wallace, Bart D's and many more books on the ancients. Can you comment on Maier's short page here? Here's the link:

http://www.4truth.net/fourtruthpbjesus.aspx?pageid=8589952895

"Cornelius Tacitus, one of the most reliable source historians of first-century Rome, wrote in his Annals a year-by-year account of events in the Roman Empire under the early Caesars. Among the highlights that he reports for the year A.D. 64 was the great fire of Rome. People blamed the emperor Nero for this conflagration since it happened "on his watch," but in order to save himself, Nero switched the blame to "the Christians," which is the first time they appear in secular history. Careful historian that he was, Tacitus then explains who "the Christians" were: "Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus" (15:44). He then goes on to report the horrors that were inflicted on the Christians in what became their first Roman persecution."

"Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus also recorded events of the first century in his famous Lives of the Twelve Caesars. He, too, regarded the Christians as a sect "professing a new and mischievous religious belief" (Nero 16) and doubtless cited "Christus" as well, spelling his name "Chrestus" (Claudius 25). That the vowels "e" and "i" were often interchangeable is demonstrated by the French term for "Christian" to this day: chretien

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Can we change adjust our usernames? I don't need help any more to believe.

by HelpMeBelieve in

jw
friends

i've heard enough to make my stomach sick, childish talk from two-faced liars, hipocritical "the friends" "the bestest people on earth", blah blah blah!.

the rampant gossip is breaking me down, i think there is no such thing as a "best friend" in thee watchtower universe of pulp fiction.

slander, malicious bitter back-biting.

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Change is coming "NoDontHelpMeBeliveFreeMeNow!"? "NoNeed2HelpMeIamOk" Changing it asap! ty and back to study, this math won't get done on it's own :)