Posts by seawolf

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Break Out The Bubbly....

by dottie in

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well it's been a long 8 months but i finally have 100 posts by my name!!!

so thanks to you all for giving me something to say in my spare time .

hugs to all .

What was Columbia's mission?

by Xander in

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amazing with all the coverage of 'what went wrong', etc, no one has bothered to ask what columbia's mission was.. here is an article put up after the launch but before the disaster:.

http://www.eprairie.com/news/viewnews.asp?newsletterid=4411.

tidbits:.

seawolf

I wonder what it was doing that had to do with radioactive materials? Maybe some sort of experiement?

http://www.globenet.free-online.co.uk/articles/columbia4.htm

Edited by - seawolf on 3 February 2003 19:26:11

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District Assembly Instructions

by RubaDub in

am i too thin-skinned or does anyone find that annual km insert dealing with the district assembly offensive???.

i mean, having to read and comment on those same things every year about not cooking in your hotel room, not to steal food if breakfast is offered, not to poop in the sinks, or whatever they say.

if you have to give those "reminders," it makes you wonder about the people you are sitting next to during the sessions.. *****rub a dub

seawolf

ROFL! That's hilarious avengers! Read the article then stick it in the bathroom!

I remember the witnesses would bitch and moan to us about A. not staying on the society's approved list and B.not going to a convention that we're assigned to. We especially got it on the B part. I got mad at them and told them to stfu. Strange thing is it was always women that got on our case about it--never the guys. But of course it was OK for them to chase to one assembly after another that they weren't assigned to so they could chase their new guy of the week. The hypocrite scale pegged off the scope on that one.

bleh

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Gulf War Syndrome

by Emiliano in

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must check this site out joyce riley -gulf war syndrome- gulfwarvets.comjoyce riley is a spokesperson for the american gulf war veterans association and an expert on the gulf war syndrome.

she will also be presenting her views on the smallpox vaccination.

her website is .

seawolf

Emiliano,

The below might be some of what you were referring to. Sorry for the sloppiness of how it's presented...I'm kind of in a hurry....

With funding and direction provided from the CDC, a lawyer at the Georgetown University Center for Law and the Publics Health, Lawrence Gostin, has created model state legislation that will allow public health officials to mobilize and use all or any part of the organized militia to isolate, quarantine and force vaccination and medical treatment on American citizens in states where a Governor has called a state of emergency for 30 days or more. (Go to www.publichealthlaw.net to read the law).

Public health officials would be given the power to coordinate all matters pertaining to the public health emergency, including the right to seize private property such as communications devices, carriers, real estate, fuels, food, clothing and health care facilities and take control of the use, sale, dispensing, distribution and transportation of food, fuel, clothing and other commodities, alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives and combustibles as well as take control of roads and public areas.

If passed by the states, the law would give unprecedented police powers to public health officials and those they designate to charge citizens with misdemeanors and imprison them if they refuse to comply with vaccination, medical treatment or isolation orders without being able to go to court first. Those who participate in enforcing the law would not be held liable for any injury, death or loss of property which resulted.

http://www.909shot.com/Newsletters/spsmallpox.htm

Basically the same stuff as the above was slipped in the Homeland Security Bill:

It gives the Secretary of HHS these unchecked powers (pg. 76):

Declare an actual or POTENTIAL bio-terrorist or other kind of incident
He can administer countermeasures to a category of individuals or everyone
He can continually extend the declare the declaration without Congresss consent

Also, if you are harmed, you cannot sue or take any other civil remedy.

This section will give the Secretary unlimited power to define a real or potential threat, to take any measures he decides, and to do it for as long as he wants, said Kathryn Serkes, AAPS spokeswoman. Its Alice in Wonderland time again an emergency is just what he says it is.

Serkes also points out that the section echoes the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act that most state legislatures defeated this past year. Just remove governor from the old bill and insert Secretary and magically you have a federal bill that was firmly rejected by voters across the country, said Serkes.

AAPS sent out thousands of email alerts urging voters to ask that the section be removed.

Just what are the counter measures allowed? Forced immunizations? Quarantines? Its not clear, but the powers seem virtually unchecked by any other agency, said Serkes. We need an honest accounting of how this will work. Its too frightening to allow it to be rammed through.

http://www.aapsonline.org/press/nrhomeland.htm

(It's been said that the above provisions that were slipped into the HSB will be removed. I'll believe it when I see it.)

Also, in the same Homeland Security Bill, a provision was slipped in to protect Eli Lilly, maker of thimerosal, from lawsuits. It's not surprising since all you have to do is follow the trail of money and power:

Critics say the Bush family and the administration have too many ties to Eli Lilly. There's President Bush's father, who sat on the company's board in the 1970's; White House budget director Mitch Daniels, once an Eli Lilly executive; and Eli Lilly CEO Sidney Taurel, who serves on the president's homeland security advisory council.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/12/eveningnews/main532886.shtml

I smell something fishy....

Edited to add: There was a whole special on all this vaccination stuff on C-SPAN on early November. Had a guy on there from the military talking about all these anthrax vaccines, a guy that was all involved with the polio vaccines and how it was covered up about the bad batches that were given to people, and a guy from Uganda about how all these vaccines were forced on them in Uganda and killed a lot of people. It was ~3 hours long or so. Wish I would have recorded it.

Edited by - seawolf on 21 January 2003 12:33:59

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FINALLY stood up to my father re: religion!

by back2dafront in

as you all may remember, i left the organization 4 years ago - never df'd, never dissassociated, just left.

my parents initially tried everything they could to get me to come back but to no avail.

they've never really shunned me because we still talk on the phone, but seeing that we live on the opposite coasts, i've only seen them once in 4 years.

seawolf

it's a BUSINESS. It's a CORPORATION, dad - and they do things just like any other corporation does things - their main concern is STAYING IN BUSINESS. That's what's it all about.

That reminds me of one meeting when the Circuit Overseer was up on stage and talking to us all about making sure we kept on donating to the society. He told us that the society could go bankrupt and out of business, just like any other corporation if they don't get enough money.

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UN FINDS WMD...OK saddam lovers, what now?

by dolphman in

ok lets hear your pathetic excuses.

c'mon now don't be shy.

let's hear what you have to say.

seawolf

Interesting words from Inder K. Gujral, the former prime minister of India:

`Oil lobby determined to have its war' in Iraq

"It would be a great tragedy for the world if there was to be a war on Iraq," he said in an interview. "It would be particularly calamitous for our region. But the oil lobby in America is determined to have the war.

"The main American aim seems to be to gain control of the world's second-largest oil reserves and to dictate the flow of oil to the world market. This has, in fact, long been the objective of American diplomacy in oil-rich West Asia."

Gujral recalled a 1990 meeting he had as India's foreign minister with then-U.S. secretary of state James Baker. "He minced no words when he told me: ` Mr. Minister, oil is our civilization and we will never permit any demon to sit over it. ' That still seems to be the main objective of the American policy," the job having been left unfinished in the 1991 Gulf War.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035776822565&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

Edited by - seawolf on 20 January 2003 1:22:51

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Saddam the Comedian

by TR in

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in the latest news article, saddam said: .

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/dailynews/iraq030117.html.

he said the bush administration has been "pushed by zionists and interest-seekers to play a role of wild and destructive instincts instead of the civilized behavior that is expected in this age.".

seawolf

JeffT,

Realist, you need to realize that the UN pulls those kinds of numbers out of its ass. Saddam has been much more dangerous to his people than we have.

Apparently, someone forgot to tell Secretary of State Madeleine Albright:

Leslie Stahl: "We have heard that a half million children have died (as a result of sanctions against Iraq). I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Madeleine Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it." -- A CBS Sixty Minutes interview between Leslie Stahl and U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, on 12 May 1996

She didn't deny any of it and since she said the price is worth it then a half million Iraqi children had died as of 1996 so how many more must have died by now? A million is at the lower end of my guess......

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