Posts by waton

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

waton

the mechanics of Jesus’s perfection

There is no mechanism to "Jesus's" perfection. It is miraculous , like all the other fables recounted in scripture. the alchemist turning water into wine, walking on water without a surfboard, feeding 5 k with food for 5. going to heaven without a sky hook. emptying a cemetery and have the denizen walk intoJerusalem.

Imagine the mechanics of that. Halloween here we come.

Treating the bible as a science fiction story, does not make it science but leaves the fiction.

The OP asks to bolster fiction with science.

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

waton

What is being discussed here is how is that possible.

Fisherman, You are limiting the scope of the discussion. The OP asks for a real life solution, if possible, to a fictional setup in the literary master piece, the Bible. Doing so would create an aura, inject a sense of reality, into the whole made up talking snake story. Why not turn the problem around, and question the proposed situation on the basis of reality? After all,

The second, super Adam did not outperform the original in any way, except words, and even those are suspect, having been written ~40+ years after the " fact".

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

waton

"Jesus'" perfection has never been proven. It is just an assertion in the story. If it was important, proof could have been furnished by letting him live to over a 1000 years, retain his youth of ~ 21, (it goes south from then on). and best of all, give the "new World" a head start by having some perfect children and grand sons. but

that would have been requiring real action, not just writing, editing.

Words are cheap.

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My prediction coming true

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

while back, not here on this net i don't remember.

i predicted that watchtower would allow you to buy your way into the kingdumb.

does anyone find this interesting?.

waton

the New World society made up of the anointed remnant, the captains or sarim now serving in official capacities and the great crowd of other sheep,

at least in those days wt still believed in "jesus's" words that the anointed would not pass heavenward until well after armageddon, (perhaps like John 30 years after the fall of jerusalem).

I think the OP refers to the drive to have elderly jws assure their resurrection by willingly writing wills to pass wealth onto wt inc. a page out of an old book of BtG, with their purgatory, release money scams.

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question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered

by enoughisenough in

how many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?

i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.

i never attempted it again.

waton

Full believer here, hitting the ground running in 1957, the bible message of the peaceful world imminent, destruction of warmongers, warriors and their war crimes, had to be heard by all, with cuban missile crises confirming the urgency. Started Pioneering 6 month after baptism, "specialed" in foreign language field 6 month later.

we were paid 45.- ffor 150 hours, no extras for clothing, car or accommodation.

The whole thing unravelled with the sh---- coloured "--- let every man be a liar book" , and the "superior authorities" flip flop.

Gave wt one more chance up to 1975, my last pioneer year. pathetic false prophets.

No regrets, the deity can not say we did not try, innocent like doves. but

feel sorry for the born ins, whose possible brilliant lives, advances were stymied by wt's criminal anti education stance. ( and their parent's desire to hang on to elder positions at all cost)

all for the sake of the golden calf, the org.

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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

by Diogenesister in

watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

waton

shame on wt to accept handouts from Satan's agents in the first place. Dont allow the hand you bite to feed you.

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“Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

by Fisherman in

“this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

waton

They saw miracles and were convinced

They heard stories, we read those stories. grandiose words by deluded writers, for self aggrandizement.

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

waton

good question. The masculinity in "Jesus" seemed not to be strongly expressed, compared to his ancestors "David" and "Solomon" with known "conquests" at 1000+.

The only funny story is the episode with the Samaritan lady at the well, and then spending 3 nights in that city, minus his male companion chaperones. .

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Kongressnachlese 2022 - TV Glotz Kongress

by + in

also ich winke jeden tag meinem tv-gerät und wer von uns hat nicht schon vor wachtturmcomicsbildchen geweint.. wer an dämonen, vampire und wehrwölfe glaubt, der glaubt auch das sich der fernseher freut, wenn ich in seine richtung klatsche.

wenn ich mir alleine vor dem fernseher ein kongressvideo ansehe, stecke ich mir auch mein namensschild an.. in zukunft poste ich nur noch selfies mit meinem fernsehgerät.. und wenn ich in zukunft vor dem fernsehgerät singe stehe ich selbstverständlich dabei auf – denn gott sieht alles, er hört alles und er riecht alles….

kongressnachlese 2022. tv glotz kongress.

waton

Er riecht, das reichts.

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Kongressnachlese 2022 - TV Glotz Kongress

by + in

also ich winke jeden tag meinem tv-gerät und wer von uns hat nicht schon vor wachtturmcomicsbildchen geweint.. wer an dämonen, vampire und wehrwölfe glaubt, der glaubt auch das sich der fernseher freut, wenn ich in seine richtung klatsche.

wenn ich mir alleine vor dem fernseher ein kongressvideo ansehe, stecke ich mir auch mein namensschild an.. in zukunft poste ich nur noch selfies mit meinem fernsehgerät.. und wenn ich in zukunft vor dem fernsehgerät singe stehe ich selbstverständlich dabei auf – denn gott sieht alles, er hört alles und er riecht alles….

kongressnachlese 2022. tv glotz kongress.

waton

"riecht" and "smell" can be a verb and an adjective, in English and Austrian.