Posts by waton

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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?

by Vanderhoven7 in

atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.

but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?

in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.

waton

If you were being subjugated and enslaved by tyrants, such tyrants would be your enemies and their children who would grow up to oppress you in your old age and their children therefore would also be your enemies

Fm: God, the Father, creator can hardly be oppressed by anyone, but the words remind me of the Joseph story, how every baby born has the great potential to be a liberator/triss. Joseph the slave in Egypt.

The Egyptians had a obsession about their afterlife, and so did the Hebrews at the time, not building pyramids, but burying both Israel and Joseph in Israel territory, far from their death place. a soil and soul connection.

In evolution babies would be a sacred trust, because they would carry the mutation that creates a new species, give the better way into the future.

Not enemies of the Creator but messengers of hope, failed pregnancies, bad apples notwithstanding.

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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?

by Vanderhoven7 in

atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.

but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?

in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.

waton

The soul of suck person is garbage—to God. Sounds like ---

right. sounds like wt propaganda, sounds like the wt governing body's ," babies are little enemies of God" said by the Guardians Of wt Doctrine.

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TV and the Media

by punkofnice in

jw
friends

i look at tv and the media as all fiction.. i wonder if the media is now just a tool to cauterise the brain and zombify us?

i'm sure the uk's bbc does.

it seems to be a tool to brainwash people to buy into latest agenda or trend that must be followed.....or you're an outcast like a disfellowshipped one.

waton

that is why it is good to scan from Al Jazeera to BBC, Guardian, Newsweek and NYT ---.

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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?

by Vanderhoven7 in

atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.

but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?

in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.

waton

is wt even right about the definition who is wicked? you can be a adulterous war criminal responsible for ~ 100 000 death and still be a hero, slated for a major role in the future wt government .

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Do you believe that this life is all there is

by Fisherman in

the bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.

what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.

waton

The fact that a quantity of energy has at some point allowed an organism to be conscious does not impart any property of that consciousness to the energy Jeffro,

right. perhaps the energy that was radiated away from the living organism, brain waves even, are on their way into the future, but that does not mean they carry the individual's personality or consciousness, A super microscoping telescope could see everything in some far away place, all that is happening here now, but that are just pretty pictures of you, not a living active you in the future time and place.

energy? only a fuzzy warm glow

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My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

by Sea Breeze in

a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

waton

what we can extrapolate back into the past is that .

the matter in the universe was made from energy, and energy can not be created or destroyed, just converted. Matter had a beginning and "Big Bang" was just a term coined by Hoyle as a joke . Even as JW looks at older light of a certain wavelength, all it will show is, how it happened. It could have been done on autopilot no on hand fiddling, micro management necessary. So, no matter who did it how, a fantastic feat.

JW (the religion) even claiming credit for Jw (the instrument view)? but

It would not be wrong to think it was your father, starting life with mother was a great feat too, and feasible.

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Jesus prophesied Global ''heat waves''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://www.jw.org/en/library/.

keep on the watch!.

record-breaking temperatures worldwide—what does the bible say?.

waton

Even the everlasting wt paradise will succumb to the final heat wave, when the sun expands to 1 AU size, engulfing the earth a merre 4 billion years from now, an age, that does not even register on the eternity scale.

Elon Musk's starships to the rescue, for Mars, and more distant, cooler destinations.

Send Elon some wt tracts please. make him a publisher, Armageddon survivor.

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JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

by BoogerMan in

september 2022 study watchtower - par.

14 p. 18 - "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death.

waton

" bad conduct will not be allowed in the new system" could also mean that those really rotten apples, coming back, and having the recreated bad traits ( Poor J and j for having all that crap to memorize) , will in short order depart again.

If the millenium is an (ongoing) judgement day, judgement could be ongoing, as your resurrection court date comes up.

not predicting, just suggesting alternative talking snake plot.

predictions create predicaments wt should know.

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Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

by FFGhost in

so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

waton

There another, now again religiously tightly controlled country, that wants to bring its young back down to the lowest level. telling, but not a record to be proud of.

Note, that wt has even dispensed with it's weakly sessions of their "Kingdom Ministry School" It was weak and weekly, nowe its zilch. sales training only.

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Family division

by joao in

the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

i can live with that.

if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

waton

Joao, remind the good ladies in your life, that, as in today's daily text 1, II , 3 (1 Cor 11, 3) wt states, that your are the head of the family, no matter what your religious wt status. Its basic truth, like 1,2,3.

use that fact gently.