Posts by waton

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Memorial invite

by JoenB75 in

now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

it always makes me a bit sad.

i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

FFG , DOC, I cited 1935, because at that time it as announced, that somehow this group of people did not partake of the emblems, surprisingly as if the "millions that will never die" of 1918, did not need the ransom to do so.

A "vox popoli, vox dei" moment in wt history.

thanks for introducing the newer light, that still makes the forced rejection of the ransom at the last evening meal the worst wt doctrinal error. and

imagine, 10s of thousands of "anointed " branded as closet unfaithful, because of the new influx. ha ha. you have to constantly remind wt adherents how wrong, untrue their beliefs were and are, through their doctrinal "tacking" in His Majesty's Ship. wt inc.

Nobody needs the ransom more than the prospective Armageddon survivors, they will never pay the price for sin personally by dying, so the wt story goes anyway.

all other sheep are prospective candidates to be sealed to go to heaven, as were the apostles nisan 14 at the time. , so

all should partake. simple, Occam's Razor at its best.

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Memorial invite

by JoenB75 in

now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

it always makes me a bit sad.

i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

waton

there is absolutely everything wrong with this, a given mandatory number of invitation leaflets delivered to every jw household door to "place" with the public.

Jesus invited only the closest associates, dismissed unworthy guest. --------wt wants to invite the whole world the more the merrier, like the mardi gras.

Jesus at the last supper had still the right to earthly life,

so did the apostles hope at the time, all were commanded and partook --------------wt wants nobody to partake. because

The calling closed in 1935 except for replacements for the unfaithful artakers since then.

Jesus said : "eat all of you" (with an earthly hope) --------------wt says " we dare you not to touch!

Jesus said unless you drink and eat, you will not have everlasting life ------------------wt says, you will earn life by obedience to us , slaving for a thousand years.

wt says, memorial will stop after the partakers are all gone, to heaven, at the beginning of the great tribulation.

how does that work out, with the ransom symbols eliminated, ( the ransom being the basis of the new covenant, for forgiveness of sins) ? btw not the kingdom covenant

partaking of the "blood of the new covenant" , that now give the "anointed" the right to earthly life, that they willingly sacrifice to go to heaven? how about those that want to keep that right and live on earth?

The great crowd of non partakers is counted to the last attendee, even in the washrooms. Rev 7 says nobody will be able to number them.

The wt "memorial is a farce, an anti christian comedy, as W. Pauli would have say, :

it is so bad, it is not even wrong.

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Mark Sanderson

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

since mark sanderson of the gb is never married, does he have his own room at warwick or have a roommate?

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waton

Apparently Sanderson started partaking when he was 19 years old

H: well, for wt believers that means being part of the "bride", feelings that in a different way are powerful at the period in life.

He is cooperating with D. Splane, who, in that "timing chart" talk, in so many words said, that 2 centenarians overlapping by ~ 20 years like Frederik Frannz and now M. Sanderson,* would bring the overlap generation to 2075. 1914 + 2x (100-19) = ~2075.

* assuming that M.S. just as the example cited, was 19 in 19192, and lived past 100.

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I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

by Witness 007 in

so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

waton

I got criticized for turning corners too fast

LHG: what was your reply? here is mine:

sorry friend, I have a phobia about slow turns from my pre- wt piloting days. Most people get killed in airplane crashes for stalling in a turn, buying the farm by spinning in. its fundamental. also

Br. waton, do you believe in the resurrection? me: "of course I do, its fundamental" then,

" Br. waton, please slow down, I like to avoid the resurrection as much as possible, just a hope after all.

back to marriage: at least, wt and other religions mandate that commitment, punish free fun as sin, so there is this very strong hormone driven home seeking ( banding a man to the house ) clause, that so strongly drives the marriage imperative. dont knock it.

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5 years ago they were 25, now they hit the BIG 30-----and still single---jw girls.

by pistolpete in

experience from reddit.

i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.

single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.

waton

It's those who have figured it out that finding someone who loves you for YOU---- and not some imaginary Brad Pitt or Freddy Franz that have a changce of a life long marriage.

PP. If the gift of the gab, that gets you on the convention platform, is the catalyst to make you appealing to a trophy wife, what is wrong with that?. I have seen happy marriages between seemingly mismatched partners, smallish men and fully grown and developed women. love never fails.[to last]

Imagine the benefit for the jws, if Frederick the Great would have learned the ropes and tied the knot and forgotten, and not get tangled up in all the doctrinal stuff?

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I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

by Witness 007 in

so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

waton

w7, you lived in luxury how about as a special pioneer ca, 1960, 150 hours a month, 45.- a month wt support, and spending most of the time in a beetle, no aircon in summer, barely any heat in the winter. no fuel gage to remind passenger it is gas up time.

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5 years ago they were 25, now they hit the BIG 30-----and still single---jw girls.

by pistolpete in

experience from reddit.

i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.

single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.

waton

this is a great topic. wish I could help the lonely hearts.

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Administering a Blood Transfusion When Directed by a Superior- Jehovah's Witness Policy

by Ron.W. in

administering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.

countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.

for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.

waton

How do JW doctors handle it when in a circumstance where a transfusion is regarded as necessary to be recommended? nbd

have your reluctance to work in that field be known, and pass on the duty to someone who will do it, and collect the income associated with the billing. (just my uninformed thought)

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Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

waton

any involvement of draft dodging, voting are never disfellowshipping procedures either, always the member is dis- membered after personal decision his/hers yes/or no, stance resigned. re-assigned to the other, satan's side.

not buying the citizenship card in Malawi was personal decision too.

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ENOCH & the Watchtower Society

by Honesty in

genesis 5.

5 so all the days of adam that he lived amounted to nine hundred and thirty years and he died.

8 so all the days of seth amounted to nine hundred and twelve years and he died.

waton

wt says that others, in ours, the last days (names withheld to protect the innocent), will not be found either, disposed off by angels, like the remains of Jesus.