stretching the definition of an "older man"!
D in french it sounds even more appropriate" les anciens" . wt should create a new category
middling middle managers. in clearspeak.
Posts by waton
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40More cracks in the dam - WTS pleading for elders "in their early 20s"
by FFGhost ini have another post here about how the wts is reeling from covid, as reflected in their abysmally catastrophic service report:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6315842470936576/annual-service-report-yet-another-analysis-big-trouble-wts.
here's another rupture showing.. in the latest "announcements and reminders" to elders, there is a paragraph with these sentences:.
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waton
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Faith-Apostasy-Atheism
by DoubtingThomas ini have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
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waton
The More the Merrier!
DT: right. Joseph has the last laugh.
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More cracks in the dam - WTS pleading for elders "in their early 20s"
by FFGhost ini have another post here about how the wts is reeling from covid, as reflected in their abysmally catastrophic service report:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6315842470936576/annual-service-report-yet-another-analysis-big-trouble-wts.
here's another rupture showing.. in the latest "announcements and reminders" to elders, there is a paragraph with these sentences:.
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waton
Elders are wt's attack dogs, no real life experience required.
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Faith-Apostasy-Atheism
by DoubtingThomas ini have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
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waton
So it's "developed technologies" and those who use them you have put your FAITH in?
DT: of course not, that would be another man made religion. but
In mho. tech people from J. Kepler*** onward have provided far better descriptions of the father's work than the so- called holy books of all kinds. They are better prophets too.
I am looking forward to being on April 8, 2024 at precisely 3:27 pm near the assignment of the Allan sisters in last week's wt study.
our scientists put wt time&place predictors to shame. accept it. the word is "shame" to associate religious concept with the glorious creation we live in.
*** Johann Kepler, who's 3rd law of planetary motion is still used today to precisely calculate small body orbits. still true after 400 years,
J k was disfellowshipped . why?
apostasy. the fat J for the tribe of Joseph.
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Faith-Apostasy-Atheism
by DoubtingThomas ini have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
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waton
2 but in these last days
DT in these last days we, who like to really find the truth , have developed technologies that could be used by the deity to really prove these fables of old are true, substantiate some modern day equivalent of the supposed miracles, messages. sadly, the record has it, that
the supposed co-creator of the universe endorsed the flood, waters over everest, a flat earth where you could see china from the mid east, and more ridiculous stuff. did not correct scientific errors, misconception in ancient "knowledge".
nothing destroys your credibility more certain than flops like that,
Playing J. S. Bach while you read it, does not help, if it is B.S.
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Faith-Apostasy-Atheism
by DoubtingThomas ini have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
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waton
let us make a choice : a) the universe created itself or b) it was somehow created, from uncreatable energy.
c) made by a person a creator/trice.
In case of c) the bible/wt writer's picture of the father (or mother nature) is a gross caricature, at best.
wt is an obstacle to really have a meaningful search, spiritually commensurate with the immensity that we experience.
fun fact: we live in the now, the ever moving zero length moment, the present, that is a present. cherish your presence.
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The Watchtowers
by BluesBrother inedit .. i messed up the title, on this touchscreen tablet and now i can’t edit it !
the title should be “ the watchtower’s (sort of) apology for 1975 ….. sorry.
january 1st 1976, i remember that day when i heard a radio disc jockey gleefully announce that the world had not ended as jehovah’s witnesses had said it would .
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waton
it was 1914 all over again, about which Carl Sagan wrote: "-- the world ended, but nobody noticed," and wt right after, 1918 and on, commented
"The world has ended, millions now living will never die" the kingdom is in the spirit realm, , the end of the world symbolic too.
note the weasel words in th PO quotations that blame the victims.
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Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inone thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.
my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.
didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.
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waton
it was mild child abuse! R7R
if it is mild, can normal, heavy be far behind? The affront comes in to call it "worship"
the elders, ms, too see the kids' hours and placements as a means to bolster the numbers to get more privileges, as a means to get rewards : a part at a circuit assembly maybe? on the backs of kids' innocence.
It is one thing to want to show appreciation to your parents, father, another to have to peddle old light propaganda, thereby become the laughing stock of your friends, and enemies.
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Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?
by pistolpete ini found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
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waton
wt writer conflated contemporaries, groups and generation into their post-1914 era amalgam.
to declare the anointed to be the only ones that count in the mass of humanity that lives since then, is their real mistake. because
Jesus said that the generation in question would pass away only after the end. after all has occurred. however,
wt writers maintain that the anointed will pass away way earlier, --to be battle ready for their role in Armageddon, ----pass heavenward at the onset of the great tribulation.
They are discussing "Samson" right now, It will not take that much power to collapse their wt temple ( way of worship). Their doctrines have such serious build in flaws, that just as a deck of cards, it is already wobbly.
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Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?
by pistolpete ini found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
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waton
based on circa 1914 generation being “the time of the end.” fm
that prophecy ot wt inc has been proved in several ways to be a false one.why still trying to play variations on that old tune? generations of overlapping wt writers do not have the guts to take a fresh look at what really is of substance in the whole bible & tract enterprise. tragic at traction.