i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.
that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!
maybe some of you will come to their senses!.
let us make a choice : a) the universe created itself or b) it was somehow created, from uncreatable energy.
c) made by a person a creator/trice.
In case of c) the bible/wt writer's picture of the father (or mother nature) is a gross caricature, at best.
wt is an obstacle to really have a meaningful search, spiritually commensurate with the immensity that we experience.
fun fact: we live in the now, the ever moving zero length moment, the present, that is a present. cherish your presence.
edit .. i messed up the title, on this touchscreen tablet and now i can’t edit it !
the title should be “ the watchtower’s (sort of) apology for 1975 ….. sorry.
january 1st 1976, i remember that day when i heard a radio disc jockey gleefully announce that the world had not ended as jehovah’s witnesses had said it would .
it was 1914 all over again, about which Carl Sagan wrote: "-- the world ended, but nobody noticed," and wt right after, 1918 and on, commented
"The world has ended, millions now living will never die" the kingdom is in the spirit realm, , the end of the world symbolic too.
note the weasel words in th PO quotations that blame the victims.
one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.
my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.
didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.
it was mild child abuse! R7R
if it is mild, can normal, heavy be far behind? The affront comes in to call it "worship"
the elders, ms, too see the kids' hours and placements as a means to bolster the numbers to get more privileges, as a means to get rewards : a part at a circuit assembly maybe? on the backs of kids' innocence.
It is one thing to want to show appreciation to your parents, father, another to have to peddle old light propaganda, thereby become the laughing stock of your friends, and enemies.
i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
wt writer conflated contemporaries, groups and generation into their post-1914 era amalgam.
to declare the anointed to be the only ones that count in the mass of humanity that lives since then, is their real mistake. because
Jesus said that the generation in question would pass away only after the end. after all has occurred. however,
wt writers maintain that the anointed will pass away way earlier, --to be battle ready for their role in Armageddon, ----pass heavenward at the onset of the great tribulation.
They are discussing "Samson" right now, It will not take that much power to collapse their wt temple ( way of worship). Their doctrines have such serious build in flaws, that just as a deck of cards, it is already wobbly.
i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
based on circa 1914 generation being “the time of the end.” fm
i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
Consider too that once a JW gets up there is age where their life is sealed -- that is, no longer any chance of making much of the change in the course they are on -- they have to believe it is near or else admit they will die.
DOC, yeah, like today's text says : " You have convince yourself that --" in other words indoctrinate yourself, whether it is factual or not. because it is not, it will change .
interesting sub question: why do dyed in the wool watchtower watchers on their deathbed regret missing the great tribulation, A ?
because according to wt doctrine everybody dying will get to see the paradise anway, nothing new there, but , wt guarantees only that those living past 2075 might see the endgame.
i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
wt believers might get an inkling what is up if they, listening to D. Splane*** would realize that he was actually promoting 2075 as the new end of the 6000 years with his overlapping super centenarians.
the 1975 - 2075, centennial. sponsored by: "wt centenarians for the centennial."
*** it would be Dr. D. Splane or even a PHD if that dissertation would be given at an institute of higher learning instead of the low key wt site.
We REAL JWs just think
DT. Israelites? anyway, with things coming up, 1914 could likely look like a picnic in the park, btw: 1941 with Barbarossa and Pearl Harbor was already, so:
easy,
just re-scramble the numbers, a watchtower specialty. 1914 1941
do you think the watchtower will ban commenting at the meetings one day?
if you are pimo, you might want to try to make some comments to make others think about the “truth”!
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the Bible reading was a talk with personal commentary. Over all there are less personal expressions at the meetings
Fm: That is where wt stands condemned for not being truly christian.
The Example Jesus, gave a bible reading and was allowed to comment on the material.
novodays , at wt meetings, silence after the reading. only the ladies are allowed to blabber. 1 Cor 14: 34-37.
the wt congregation of the unholy ones.
i know its weird to say something like this on this forum, but its how i feel about it.
i feel that way cause i see that covid has taken a tole on my dad who's growing older.
knowing that this will come as good news to him is somewhat comforting to me.
the more an epiphany would hurt thinking
SL, the word L' Epiphanie brings back memories, of the 1950s, when we (as we know now) deludes zealots "worked " that town in Lanaudiere.
Another group of zealots with crowbars chased us out. (they had been working at re building their church)
"the love [for the truth] of the greater numbers will cool of" . may those beyond the capacity to face reality at least have that comfort of being given "a" for effort, have family, a good death, die satisfied.
this wt doctrine includes the wrathful mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled belonging to the billions of non-jws... extremist?
"during the war of armageddon, jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (read ezekiel 38:18.
) he will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe.
to rewrite this fiction: david should have said to the deity: "well, sorry I made this other mistake, I am ready to pay for it, but spare the population please, if not
we are going to make this atrocious offer public. write it into history [books], as part of your personality profile."
