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  Recent Annual Meeting - Asking for Clarification

  by truth_b_known in

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  would someone in the know please clarify for me some alleged comments given from the governing body at the recent/yet to be streamed for the rank and file annual meeting?.

  it is my understanding that samuel herd basically tells the rank and file that old light is new light and the new light of july, 2013 is now old light.

  to be specific, herd states that the official stance on whether or not the annointed remaining on earth, to include the governing body, will all be in heaven prior to armageddon.. at this same annual meeting tony morris iii tells those in attendance that stephen letts' statement that "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days!

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  waton

  the Annointed remaining on Earth, to include the Governing Body, will all be in heaven prior to Armageddon.

  FFG: Listened to the talk by S. Herd, a reading really, (obviously, D.Splane id not want to do further damage his profile),

  It was a lot of gaslighting. the really big elephant in the room is , that the concept of the partakers going to heaven before the end , to fight and kill as "immoral" fighters is:

  Jesus said, that the generation ( wt anointed) will pass away after the end, not until all these things have occurred, like the apostle John, who survived the end (of Jerusalem),

  One must feel sorry for them in that predicament, believing and proclaiming, that wt leadership is so essential for salvation.
  
  
  
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  Watchtower Study on 5th December.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.

  in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".

  however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.

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  Iit the whole congregation or a simple majority? Is a vote taken?

  t is very offensive for vulnerable families with trophy wives and pretty, handsome children to be again ogled, accosted and stalked by convicted criminals*** at the kh.

  Even on zoom, them being beamed into the sanctity of the home, our castle, spouting their contaminated comments.

  ***a disfellowshipped person has been convicted. of, and "served time", for breaching a divine law. Surely a deed graver than violating secular regulations.

  like David of old, a repeat offender of murder and adultery, in his songs styling himself as "a man according to Jehovah's heart."
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  Watchtower Study on 5th December.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.

  in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".

  however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.

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  waton

  This was all about apostates, dissenters, not the repeat adulterers, childmolesters that you do not want as friends, org or not.
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  Watchtower Study on 5th December.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.

  in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".

  however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.

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  waton

  let wt and it's minions not forget that the tribe of Joseph has a double portion in the inheritance.

  He was the I0 against one whistleblower, clear talker of the bunch, expelled, nearly killed by his loving brothers.

  They ended up eating out of his hand.

  Rev. 7 set in "the Lord's day", still gives Joseph and his son the most realm.

  how is that for a bible story?
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  Now question all these people disfellowshipped for adulteres marriage

  by Yomama in

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  2. friends

  do they get apology for getting the boot?.

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  waton

  However, the WBT$ will never apologise for anything.

  pon, they might stoop to " we regret having printed that."

  they stoop to conquer.
  still waiting for yomama to fill in the details too.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2021

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  study article 50. listen to the voice of the fine shepherd.

  9 consider an experience that illustrates how jehovah can care for our material needs.

  a couple in full-time service drove over an hour in their old car to pick up some sisters living at a refugee center and take them to a christian meeting.

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  we know that the end of the world is coming, because the universe is not old enough to have these, andre, grocery, car events happen by pure lottery- type odds, chance.
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  Now question all these people disfellowshipped for adulteres marriage

  by Yomama in

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  do they get apology for getting the boot?.

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  Y: give the details of that allegedly changed " adultery brings disfellowshipping " ruling.

  remember Jesus said, that even a persistent adulterous "eye" will have you regret that in "gehenna. " where their worm die est not"

  PS: I remember from the 60s, where an innocent mate had to give consent to a guilty party in a scriptural divorce to remarry.

  A vengeful, hurt victim, of a scoundrel, could ruin that one's life, by withholding that permission, if the wrongdoer wanted to "survive Armageddon", wanted wt's favour. a kh wedding.
  
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  Did you at one time Believe-that you were not going to die. Does your still in JW spouse still believe?

  by pistolpete in

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  this magazine says it all!.

  and many of the older jws believed at one point in their life that they would make it through the great tribulation and into the 1000 year reign of christ without dying.

  which is why so many jws stayed in so long.. is the main reason why jws ignore all the child abuse, the end of door to door service, and the closing of kingdom hall for almost two years----because they still believe they will not die?.

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  waton

  no, really not at all. I hoped though and believed , that the father would intervene to prevent us all being killed in, or, because of a 3rd and last war. Of course is was done through the M.A.D. doctrine that would have killed the warmongers too. as to

  b) to obtain everlasting live is not a driving force in her life, the young ones?

  preoccupation with death, and wt doctrines too is a quaint tick of the irrelevant older ones.
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  Roger aka Andre' cites scripture that contradicts major wt false doctrine.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the just finished wt study # 38, "--spiritual family" , par.

  19 , " robert " is reported to have cited math: 12:50. note he has limited "bible knowledge" therefore is not fully indoctrinated.

  jesus: .

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  waton

  it appears COs have not been supplied with new outlines yet, that include the wt study insight into Math:12:50 "everyone that does the will of my father is my brother--"

  still hammering: "obey the anointed partakers in patterson," or else. o t p i p mantra.
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  CLASSICAL music: value ZERO ?? (The Truth That Leads to Eternal LIfe)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  classical music: value zero??.

  performances are ephemeral.

  you hear a live performance - and it's gone.. a recording may preserve that 'in a certain way' but it can't preserve it against other performances of the same thing.

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  waton

  the music is never as good as a studio

  mbc; how true, but the best music can be truly moving in the original, with top notch modern instruments. after all, stereo machines produce sound with cardboard.