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  So telling that there are no little children

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watching in on my wife's zoom meeting last night, there was an item about discipline is love.

  they played a 'caleb' animated cartoon and then the instructions were 'if possible, ask selected young children' several questions.. it seems however, that there are no children in my wife's current congregation so the questions were all answered by retired brothers and sisters.

  the congregation mainly consists of elderly people (like us) and the few of childbearing age seem not interested in having children.

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  waton

  es, may be your cong situation is caused by the geography. Another situation is that there might be a core of true believers of old ladies, well off, that make up the handful, small number of commenters on zoom, but a healthy group of 20 to 40 year olds is procreating, and determined to maintain their circle of friends, even at the price of having to parrott wt propaganda. they are uninterested in doctrines, belief.

  just like other churches, members do not really know what the doctrines are, but are fighting to make their life socially meaningful. having children, ignoring the doom and gloom of wt propaganda.
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  Bethelout?

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sunday speaker was one of those very smooth younger ones with the "look".

  store bought haircut and a very pretty wife ( the kind that makeup isn't needed, side point).. i tongue tied a comment to my wife about maybe he was a bethelite who was reassigned and said bethelout by mistake.

  i like the word.

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  waton

  then, to all still in,

  but are in doubt.

  go ahead, and

  be the lout.
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  Dead. Resurrected. Saved in the Second Temple period

  by Doug Mason in

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  another subject in my attempt to understand the second temple period.. https://www.academia.edu/s/980704b536?source=link .

  doug.

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  waton

  the story of the tombs opening, and zombies walking into jerusalem is suspect.too. and

  what kind of a sacrifice is that spending trillions and trillions of years alve, perhaps even awake, and then sleeping for part of three days, with a guarantee to wake up?
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  Have You Been “Gaslit”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gaslighting is a form of sustained manipulation that causes the victim to question or doubt their sanity, judgment and memories.

  it’s a form of emotional abuse.

  i think jehovah’s witnesses have been gaslit.

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  waton

  continuing gaslighting the wt members in today's May 24 text comment:

  "we do not discuss lies about the organisations with apostates." right.

  the, why not discuss the facts ?.
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  Bethelout?

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sunday speaker was one of those very smooth younger ones with the "look".

  store bought haircut and a very pretty wife ( the kind that makeup isn't needed, side point).. i tongue tied a comment to my wife about maybe he was a bethelite who was reassigned and said bethelout by mistake.

  i like the word.

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  waton

  did I see Beth -e- lout?

  With all the questions now openly available, It takes a certain frame of mind to still work for wt BtS inc.
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  As An ExJW or Fader What Do You Believe In?

  by minimus in

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  god?

  jehovah?

  science?

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  waton

  There is a really big reality outside of us, and energy being uncreated, eternal, it is impossible that it all created itself.

  the father of it all, seems to take delight having his offspring discover for themselves how he/she did it. so, doing original work would please him. also

  copying his works, like being a good provider, mother fits the bill. using the time available to me well, pleasing me, others, , would please him.

  The universe I find so beautiful, really does not look like the way I see it in my mind / brain, so, your and my experience are unique, it is our experience. enJoy it!
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  U.A.P. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon .Videos recently de-classified by the pentagon .

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. current

  the new name for u.f.o.`s have you seen these videos and interviews with the u.s.navy`s pilots and the reports that the united states are now taking this phenomenon seriously ?.

  and now more publicly than they ever did before , apart from project blue book .?.

  as an 18 year old i,along with a few others witnessed what i would describe as an u.a.p.

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  waton

  One of the UFOs was flying above the water then shot down into it, only to emerge with a smaller UFO held in it's beak-like protrusion.

  S-imilarly in the 1950 there was an Ufo documentary shown in the movie theaters, that featured a group of them, flying in tight formation, making tight circles, at great altitude glistening in the sunshine. No man made material would withstand the stresses of such tight turns.

  it turned out to be a flock of seagulls at lower heights, circling in a thermal.
  
  
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  List of Critical WTS Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

  this is your crash course.

  i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

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  waton

  The last that seem to be fit are the young men

  mustafa, looking at the text in Rev 14: 4, it says that they are pure, undefiled with woman, and' we assume it means the 144 000 must have been men, but not so, because

  unorthodox relations are possible for ladies too.
  
  
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  List of Critical WTS Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

  this is your crash course.

  i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

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  waton

  In short I don't understand your answer at all!

  Mufasa, i am sorry, you misunderstood my tone, probable across 4 languages, and unable to see our face.

  I tried to keep the answer very short.so please read the 2 chapters cited.

  it is the angels that are doing the sealing, and they are not telling us the results. but you have to fulfill a & b to be even on the short list.

  The last that seem to be fit are the young men Bibelforschers in good standing, that went under the the falling axe, aka guillotine for resisting the Nazis in the 1940s in Europe.

  virgins that were axed for their faith. rev 14, rev 20.
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  List of Critical WTS Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i sent a list of statements about current wts teachings to a friend who is being carefully recruited by a seasoned witness.. hi em..... just a quick summary of what all “good” jehovah's witnesses believe...even though some of these things witnesses are not always willing to be transparent about.

  this is your crash course.

  i have quotations for every item listed if you want or need them.. witnesses believes that:.

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  waton

  How do you become one of the 144,000?

  M: jws, wt is wrong on this. it is not eating, drinking at the memorial it. -- is to be a

  a) male virgin Rev 14 and to

  b) die by beheading, a martyr's death. Rev.20 still in vogue bsw.