Posts by waton

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A Growing Problem for Materialists

by Sea Breeze in

the famous double-slit experiment proves that light travels both in individual particles called photons and also as a mathematical probability wave.

matter itself exhibits this particle-wave duality which allows objects to exist in two different places at the same time, depending on whether of not you are looking (testing) at it.

scientists have recently been able to get molecules as large as 2000 atoms to exhibit this duality!.

waton

The problem with the term materialist is, that matter or material is just a particular, solid form of energy.

Energy has been proven to be not destructible, only transformable, hence is even uncreated, therefore must have existed before the Big Bang., along with time, the first or 4st dimension.

just because our instruments do not reach, or receive information from that era, or our 3-4D brains can not "picture" it, does not mean it is not factual.

The quark / quantum conundrums just shows the frontiers of knowledge we have to expand, and

if there is a creator (not god) obviously set up to explore

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A Growing Problem for Materialists

by Sea Breeze in

the famous double-slit experiment proves that light travels both in individual particles called photons and also as a mathematical probability wave.

matter itself exhibits this particle-wave duality which allows objects to exist in two different places at the same time, depending on whether of not you are looking (testing) at it.

scientists have recently been able to get molecules as large as 2000 atoms to exhibit this duality!.

waton

all protons and electrons identical to each other? --------regardless of substance. SB

is it not the numbers of protons in the nucleus, and number of electrons in an atom that determines a substance?

But you are right, everything carries information, even gravity, and it's waves, travelling at the speed of light.

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Privileges

by neat blue dog in

for me, outside the jw context, that word seems to relate to something like a prison setting, where you're allowed to do certain things based on good behavior.

waton

The other term is "enjoy" as in "will enjoy the privilege" "enjoy reviewing the meeting". and "serve as/in" the congregation as POoBoE. really

enjoy dominating over the other dismayed wannabes.

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jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

by eyeuse2badub in

last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

waton

right after the invention of religion , that is sacrificing to the deity, 100% of true worshippers were wiped out. God knew about it, did not stay the stave.

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jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

by eyeuse2badub in

last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

waton

Only the wt organisation is protected, not individuals.

like you have the floating ark, but the passengers might be dead.

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You Know You're A Jehovah's Witness When...

by pale.emperor in

you know you're a jehovah's witness when.... being offered a scholarship to a good university is considered a bad thing.. when you see a house you like you claim it for after your god kills the owner.. you recieve spiritual guidence from a bus driver and a window washer.. you're engaged to a person you only met 3 months ago.. your widowed mother is marrying a man she met at the convention who she's known for 2 weeks.. there's jehovah's witnesses meeting in your house on a saturday morning to talk about going out knocking on doors on a saturday morning.. a lie in on a weekend happens about twice a year.. you dont talk to your own parents/children because they have a different opinion about a magazine.. you're not quite sure what you're supposed to believe anymore.. when someone criticizes your a magazine you feel like you're being attacked.. your 3yo son owns a suit.. if you're not married by the age of 30 you're considered to be gay or something wrong with you.. (for girls) if you havent married the first or second person you've dated you're considered promiscuous or something wrong with you.. you get your scientific knowledge from a magazine written by people who've never been to college and have never actually read the source they claim to be citing.. you get excited if there's a storm or natural disaster.. you get excited when there's a terrorist attack.. you get excited when there's a pandemic.. your version of tinder is the lunch break at a convention.. your girlfriend dresses like her grandmother.. your grandparents, despite being in the same religion as you, died believing totally a different belief system..

waton

when your late grandparents, you spend quality time with , are an early group of the same generation as you, living along the "partakers" of the same age.

(if the anointed overlap so must everybody else)

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KH flying Chilean Flags??

by Vanderhoven7 in

i saw a headline saying chile is demanding religious organizations fly the nations flag.. is this accurate?

is the society complying?.

https://jwsurvey.org/tag/jehovahs-witnesses.

waton

Thinking: what about a ship used by jw missionaries, and vessels are required to fly the flag of the nation of their registry.

would the blue JWORG do? the new earthly symbol of the 1914 kingdom? or are the local colours de rigueur ? for an imaginary HMS "'Lookbryn" ?

seriously though, in the 1930 the government ordered all to fly the swastika, but since no ceremony is involved, could/should a ZJ have done so, or

a local jw done so in Malawi?

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Pic of old woman having no food but donating to Watchtower

by Darkknight757 in

i hope you are all doing ok and healing from the cult.

i’m looking for an image of the old woman donating to watchtower but also in the same pic looking in her fridge and having little to eat.

i need it for a video for youtube.

waton

750 k is not a big deal in many places, as real estate values are well above 500 000 a pop for a house.

One widow endowing the congregation could have them hit the million mark.

wt motto: "the harvest is great"

afterthought: that is why the lady in the empty fridge picture has that expensive coiffure, all the time.

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Pic of old woman having no food but donating to Watchtower

by Darkknight757 in

i hope you are all doing ok and healing from the cult.

i’m looking for an image of the old woman donating to watchtower but also in the same pic looking in her fridge and having little to eat.

i need it for a video for youtube.

waton

when I saw the picture I was appalled, it ranked with the mind-insulting videos for the childish wt believers.

The lady reminded me though of the well to do widows and divorcee women here, that always have a picture perfect hairdo

The subtle double message is really: -- keep up appearances, beautify the "truth", stay slim, before food shopping put aside funds to feed the wt maw., ma.

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1914 Dropped

by pale.emperor in

so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.

the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?

does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.

waton

1914 will be the date that Jesus’ coronation ceremony began, DD:

and the start of the "anointed" the "bride", to also becoming the generation that will not pass away, and overlap in 2 groups.

wt has the story wrong here , not because 2 centenarians like F. Franz, overlapping by 20 years will get us to 2075, but

if all the "anointed" will not pass away until all has happened,

they might make it to the post-Armageddon "wedding" alright, but miss their reserved place in the army of 144 001 immortals, killing all the babies, apostates and all those that did not subscribe to The Awake & Watchtower, or Jw.Org.