BlueBrother, right, and few realise that this waiting for heaven or PPP can drag on until 2075 ? actually thinking in terms of ages involved? and in effect realising that it might never come, the wt has it outlined? because who has ever taken 2 generation=1 seriously?
Posts by waton
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131975 to 2075 a family story.
by waton ina fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.
a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.
he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.
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waton
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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waton
- Pyramid?
- Doughnut?
- Conical?
- Square?
- Polygonal?
A 4 cornered Earth need not be a square, but can be a pyramid with a triangular base, but that would spoil the fun of the 2D no volume, no substance deflated earth earthers.
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Did man really go to the moon?
by atomant inl have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.
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waton
In a few days, leaving from the same general space port that the men left from for the moon, the biggest rocket cluster will launch an electric car into a long Mars orbit. first try.
That launch noise will shatter the teeth of a few JWs that still live there, actually worked on the moon program.
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1975 to 2075 a family story.
by waton ina fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.
a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.
he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.
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waton
Acluetofindtheuser: What if you don't partake of the memorial emblems but God's spirit has chosen you to be one of the 144,000? Do you get disqualified for not partaking or does he make an exception because of the mass confusion?
I suggest you start a topic on that. but
there are at least 118 cases of people that were anointed, without beforehand having taking the emblems, including Cornelius.
Rev 7, speaks about 144k being sealed, not partaking. a huge difference. The angels are in conversation, no mention that they reveal the identity of the sealed ones.
Partaking or not might be the biggest issue all witnesses have struggled with, as our hero above, Br. unplanned . and you and I.
Leave the solution to that question to those that can do something about it, and that probably would not be the G.O.D. (guardians of doctrine) appointed in 1919.
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1975 to 2075 a family story.
by waton ina fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.
a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.
he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.
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waton
ACTFTU: your reference to Jonah, puts an interesting spin on your questions, for the account is clearly fictional, requiring the violation of nature's laws. But Jonah was conned into proclaiming a message that was meaningless, without teeths, a false prophecy. A set up for his being used , discredited, and kicked to the curb so to speak. His initial refusal seem to have been the right move.
It is but a story, even if Jesus endorsed it. so:
Nice of you being sincere, but with that understanding, what to make of these "what if" questions?
wt is wrong to limit the partaking to the already anointed. The new covenant is a mere prelude, the induction into spiritual Israel, the 12 tribes, having their "sins" forgiven, out of which the 144k are sealed , anonymously. to rule with Christ (if true)
If there is a creator, with even a smitchens of what the bible indicates about him, any of our invented stories, will pale in to nothing, compared what the future experience would be like (if any). Accepting or not the dictates of a provenly wrong "church" would matter little imho. Your doubting might earn you points of approval. How could you rule the cosmos if you are gullible?
If in doubt, follow your conscience and plead sincerity.
commenting not endorsing.
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Curiosity
by Jrjw ini was just sitting daydreaming about answering up during a watchtower and exposing one of the lies the wts has stated in the study material and wondering what the reaction would be 😊 has anyone ever done this on their way out?
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waton
You can always use Old Light doctrinal facts, if related to the paragraph's theme, and point out "--how blessed we are now to understand better, and looking into the future how even better and brighter light will be provided through the appointed channel. Giving proof of spirit guidance we can trust--" and on and on.
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Hollow earth
by Jrjw ini thought the flat earth conspiracy theory was strange but ive just read an article about a new conspiracy theory that the earth is hollow and that its a paradise there and 8 foot tall intellectually advanced aliens live there who send space ships out every so often to check on mankind.
apparently lost viking colonies and nazis that fled there after world war 2 are living there immortally 🤣🤣 .
this world just gets better and better 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
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waton
just to play along what a hollow earth would feel like to live in. Assuming that the centre is hollow, a round cavity, there would be no gravity there.
You could push yourself off the inner wall under England and float to Australia, envied by the kangaroos, but take a cushion along, the arrival would be as strong as your departure.
we know now that zero gravity has grave consequences on our bodies, including the brain. living inside a hollow earth would simulate that.
it was also skew our seismic findings, change the mass of the Earth, it's relationship to the moon, shift the barycenters.
Present a perspective with wrong priorities, like wt's performance record. .
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Resurrection to Heaven
by Lost in the fog inct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
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waton
read it please. 1975-2075. a composite family story. posted here
I tried to read it but it was written very strangely. Like it sort of made sense and sort of didn't. The grammar was peculiar and I didn't really understand what was going on. Fred Franztone.
thank you, Fred, for even trying and putting up with the staccato syntax of one of the observing immigrant patriarchs in the story.
Point was, that within a day's driving distance of Brooklyn Bethel lived a number of young overlappers, that had contact with Fred Franz, Friend and other anointed there. These were real families, real characters. Their tenure on Earth will not expire until the 2075 era.
Wt's claim to uniqueness, authority is based on these timelines, appointment assertions. They have already collapsed.
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Resurrection to Heaven
by Lost in the fog inct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
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58 years from now? What's this about? Fred Franztone
It is about allowing
2 years from the start of the GT to Armageddon, judgement, paradise. about
A brother following the timeline of F.Franz, serving in Bethel with him, surviving him by ~80 years, the ~ same period that Franz survived 1014 (the supposed end then).
as proverbs says: "The end is better than the beginning". read the 1975-2075 story please. real family histories.
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Resurrection to Heaven
by Lost in the fog inct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
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waton
Remember, within a few years of 1975 most JWs professed not to remember that the WT said anything of consequence about that date. Ding:
and read about the diehards in the sorry story 1975 to 2075, who considered
1) 1975 a faith strengthening experience, a test of their zeal and endurance, and a time of sifting survived,
2) an affirmation that wt was on the right track, because Armageddon, paradise were now surely so much closer as they were in 69 when it all began.