Posts by waton

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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz

by mind blown in

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http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.

just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .

waton

while it is still up, go to the quote of the Oct 8 Awake page 256.

It says there that members of this generation would have to be still alive until all these things have occurred.

It obviously did not occured to the writers then , and to the anointed generation generators now, that this doctrine is deeply flawed. The anointed are participants in the execution at the end, and therefore have to be dead and resurrected well before this old system winds up. and D. Splane said so. charted that for us. so:

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Professions in the Paradise

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

we know there will be no money in paradise.

but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.

we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.

waton

Squirreling away old world artifact would be in order.

think of it. The only rebellion in the multiverse tolerated for 7000 years, and never allowed to develop again, would not want to be forgotten without a trace, even as a curiosity. even just one airplane. because what is the worst of the new scriptures, new world commandments coming? (check wt ppp illustrations!

11. thou shalt not build airplanes, commit levitation. .

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Professions in the Paradise

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

we know there will be no money in paradise.

but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.

we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.

waton

how about a clinic to restore the libido and anatomy of the resurrected ones? by way of hormone treatment, and using all the useless OPRs left idle. Restoring navels, if they become fashionable among the resurrected masses? after all they would be a symbol of your past mating fitness! memories, for the children of the resurrection.

creating a real gentry again. including Edward.

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Professions in the Paradise

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

we know there will be no money in paradise.

but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.

we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.

waton

One pioneer suggested he would be a one crop farmer. vinter. growing the smart fruit, the one that knows how to turn itself into wine.

re screws. some of the now most valuable furniture was build without them. just using intricate joints, dovetails, tenons, wedges, slotting. Even imperfect Noah's ark is shown by wt to have been held together by wooden dowels! turning bayonets into chisels? eternally?

we can not imagine yet, how far humans can regress, and advance the ancient, simpler skills.

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Professions in the Paradise

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

we know there will be no money in paradise.

but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.

we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.

waton

Citing " The first will be last--" and Isaiah 65, -- it always amused me to see the deflated, or protesting faces when I suggested that the entitled, or would - be big wig with me, would build their own house, or do their own cleaning, or even help others for free, lose their status as boss or exploiter.

Pointing out that such humbler existence is what they were really aspiring to when entertaining the paradise hope.

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Have you ever thought what the primary teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses is?

by Half banana in

it is not “preach the good news” nor is it “believe in jesus and get saved” neither is it “believe in the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses and get saved” although in practice they do teach this.

no, everything they claim depends on a belief in another doctrine which logic decrees cannot be found in the bible.

the leadership of jehovah’s witnesses put absolute faith in a protestant doctrine which is given a latin name, sola scriptura, meaning “by scripture alone”.. good evidence of the governing body believing in the primacy of this doctrine was when being questioned by the australian royal commission, they resorted to the ‘authority’ of scripture to defend their stance on having “two witnesses” when they are investigating child abuse cases.throughout the hearing they paraded their naive trust in the bible as the highest possible authority proudly ignoring the fact that most people regard it as having been superseded by modern scientific evaluations of what is true.. .

waton

power to us , the Governing brothers. (of varying degrees).

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Have you ever thought what the primary teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses is?

by Half banana in

it is not “preach the good news” nor is it “believe in jesus and get saved” neither is it “believe in the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses and get saved” although in practice they do teach this.

no, everything they claim depends on a belief in another doctrine which logic decrees cannot be found in the bible.

the leadership of jehovah’s witnesses put absolute faith in a protestant doctrine which is given a latin name, sola scriptura, meaning “by scripture alone”.. good evidence of the governing body believing in the primacy of this doctrine was when being questioned by the australian royal commission, they resorted to the ‘authority’ of scripture to defend their stance on having “two witnesses” when they are investigating child abuse cases.throughout the hearing they paraded their naive trust in the bible as the highest possible authority proudly ignoring the fact that most people regard it as having been superseded by modern scientific evaluations of what is true.. .

waton

primary teaching at the doors?: "good morning, We are right, you are wrong.--" bible contradictions notwithstanding.

Very interesting OP thank you.

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What’s The Strangest Belief of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there’s a lot.

i think one strange view is how only 144000 go to heaven.

since the number is mentioned in the symbolic book of revelation, you would expect that the number would be viewed as figurative, but jws say otherwise.

waton

The no blood craze in the 60s? , No transfusions for pets, as if the blood abstinence applied to animals like mosquitos too, searching for blood free hot dogs, wieners, hamburger products.

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What’s The Strangest Belief of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there’s a lot.

i think one strange view is how only 144000 go to heaven.

since the number is mentioned in the symbolic book of revelation, you would expect that the number would be viewed as figurative, but jws say otherwise.

waton

anointed end generation dying before the end is over

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The ever-broadening, ever-deepening, ONGOING FLOOD TIDE of spiritual food

by credulity in

midway through the "congregation bible study" at this week's midweek meeting, a paragraph of the "god's kingdom rules" book stated as supposed evidence that "god's kingdom rules":.

"spiritual provisions flow to us like an ever-broadening and ever-deepening river.

our bible-based publications - as well as recordings and videos, our meetings and conventions, and the material published on our web site - together amount to an ongoing flood tide of spiritual sustenance... are you not thrilled to see the fulfillment of jehovah’s promises of abundance in your daily life?".

waton

ever shallowing. no wait a ripple, next week's wt study.